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I have a 10g tank that has kribensis fry in it. Also has dozens of snails. I'm told loaches are my best bet but will they go after my fry?? They snails are destroying my plants...Julia are the smallest but don't know if they will eat some of the bigger snails and clown loaches are just too big. Ideas? Loaches will be regimes once problem is resolved.
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Very few snails in aquaria will eat plants. Do you have photos of them? What are they?

Most likely, they're only eating already decaying plant matter.


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I have a 10g tank that has kribensis fry in it. Also has dozens of snails. I'm told loaches are my best bet but will they go after my fry?? They snails are destroying my plants...Julia are the smallest but don't know if they will eat some of the bigger snails and clown loaches are just too big. Ideas? Loaches will be regimes once problem is resolved.
I would think loaches will try to eat anything they can. Wether they could catch the fry is a question. I've heard around the traps that the loaches have to be a reasonable size to take on snails anyway.

Some aquarists put some vegetable on a string or whatever and when the snails gather on it - remove it.

I lowered the ph of a few species tanks to 6.5 with tannins etc and was surprised and glad to see the snail population almost destroyed. Don't know if it was the ph or some other effect of the 'black-water' organics. Didn't get em all though.


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My ph is 8.0 it's hard for me to lower it. Even using 2/3 RO water for a while only brought it down to 7.6 I tried green beans today after 12 hours not a single snail was on it but my fry were eating it. It's still in there ill check it in the morning. I had snails once before in a different tank with no fry and had 2" zebra loaches they ate all the snails.
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That's a ramshorn snail and in moderation they should be fine. I usually pick out all the pea size ones to feed to my puffer and just leave all the little ones. You shouldn't have a TON of them...if you are, you're overfeeding. Feed less and their population will stay low.
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Ok I'll try to feed less. There's 2 adult kribs in there 1 rose danio (kribs killed the other 5) and about 30 fry. I have been feeding a little more trying to make sure the fry way good. Right now I know there's at least 30 snails most small bit a couple almost the size of a dime. Every couple of days I sift through and grab everyone I see but the next day it's like I never took any. And if I wait a week I have some giant ones.
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There are no Loaches suitable for a 10 gallon tank that are also good snail predators, and with fry in there...
no.

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Keep some Zebra Loaches in an appropriate tank (half a dozen in a 20 long or larger)
Rotate them through the 10 gallon in between fry rearing periods.

Rams horn snails are easy to pick out, and while you have the fry in the 10, harvest the snails and toss them in the Loach tank.

Clown Loaches can get a foot or more in length, and it is a chunky, plump fish mass. They are social, with half a dozen minimum. There is no way they are going to work in a tank smaller than 75 gallons, and even that is only good while they are juveniles. These are not fish you get 'cause you have a snail problem'.
These are fish you get because you like them.
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I tried green beans today after 12 hours not a single snail was on it but my fry were eating it.
Understandable, I'm not fussed about raw green beans either.

See if there is something here that might help...
http://www.skepticalaquarist.com/eliminating-snails


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After talking with other members of my local aquarium club I'm thinking I'm gonna try assassin snails and see where that goes
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I'm gonna try assassin snails and see where that goes
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I would think loaches will try to eat anything they can. Wether they could catch the fry is a question. I've heard around the traps that the loaches have to be a reasonable size to take on snails anyway.

Some aquarists put some vegetable on a string or whatever and when the snails gather on it - remove it.

I lowered the ph of a few species tanks to 6.5 with tannins etc and was surprised and glad to see the snail population almost destroyed. Don't know if it was the ph or some other effect of the 'black-water' organics. Didn't get em all though.
A lower ph will definitely help. I had a half dozen mystery snails once and one by one all I saw were shells that dissolved. I then realize that I tried keeping them in 6.5-6.7 ph water. Snails need the high tds to keep their shells healthy.

Assassin snails is a good option but be ready to supplement once they mow thru the problem in no time.

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A lower ph will definitely help. I had a half dozen mystery snails once and one by one all I saw were shells that dissolved. I then realize that I tried keeping them in 6.5-6.7 ph water. Snails need the high tds to keep their shells healthy.
I wonder how snails in blackwater biotopes get on? I can't imagine there are none, surely. Interesting research project, if you're into snails.


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