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wierd idea!

Ive been thinking, if you have a tall tank, and not enogh planting areas, then why don't you silicon shelfs to the inside of the tank? Make it about half as big as the tank, so the fish can swim through, and have plants dangle over the side, and: viola!! The first fish tank with shelves!
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I can picturize a real nice looking tank if there is a lot of stuff hanging forming a cave like for the fish can take advantage and have a hiding place.

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I have seen Cichlid tanks with rocks on shelves. It is a huge tank in the kids area of the Norcross Kaiser. Others here may have seen it. It is the most impressive Cichlid tank I've seen in person.
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Good luck finding aquatic plants that will grow AWAY from the light!

Cool idea nonetheless!
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So, how do you propose to provide light to the area below the shelves? To grow plants on the shelf, you'd have to have substrate and that would block the light from going through to below.
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I could see using spotlights pointed at the side of the tank for that, but hidden behind a well placed shelf so it wouldn't glare. This is a cool idea. I have a 20 super high which would do well with an idea like this... hmm...


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I wonder if there are underwater lights... If you drilled holes in the glass, then you could propably get moss.
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Interesting Idea, heres my take

This sounds highly feasible. Imagine shelves of medium grain gravel one on each side of the tank held up using a fine mesh. the lower area would be generally bare except for root systems coming down through the substrate. I think given some planning it would work quite well. Only thing is the upper portion above the shelf would be the only planted area. I think there are several ways to approach the idea. But, it would look interesting to see root systems coming through (anyone remember their potato projects from elementary?) and fertilization would be great as the root systems would be exposed to the "ambient" water. There might be some shade loving species of fish/shrimp/or invertebrates that could be used to tailor the tank and make it more interesting, maybe something that spawns in shaded root systems?
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I could see using spotlights pointed at the side of the tank for that, but hidden behind a well placed shelf so it wouldn't glare. This is a cool idea. I have a 20 super high which would do well with an idea like this... hmm...

The glass that those lights shine though are going to be algae magnets.
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Maybe you could use the smaller underwater pond lights.
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I had a similar idea a while back. I originally planed on using small plastic “breeder” tanks, but they were too large. I ended up using some odds and ends from Wallyworld. A 2-inch silverware divider, plastic hooks, superglue and krylon paint made…





Plan was to hang it inside from the top of the tank and fill it with Shultz and semi-aquatic plants. My lights come in at an angle anyway (but from the top) and figured the spread would still allow light to reach the plants under it.

I was wrong. It still blocked too much light.

Oh well, it was a fun attempt.
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This is similar to my idea for providing a larger cave for my Warmouth. I made him a cave made of plexy glass which was shaped sort of like a rectangle with a bit of a slope instead of a 90 degree angle. It fit against the back wall of the tank and ran the length of the tank. It had a cut out entrence and exit at each end and both those points were disguised with plastic plants. He would have demolished real plants in a min flat. I used silicone glue to attach rocks (then sand to fill in the spaces between the rocks. I then used larger rocks plied in front of the box and a few on top of it to make it look like a rock pile. To keep the inside from becoming nasty I had an undergravel filter in this tank (even though normaly I refuse to use them). I also had another powerhead which attached to a long spong filter which ran along on the inside of the cave. Kept it neat and tidy acutualy! My warmouth loved his cave and used it constantly. He needed lots of cover, being a native fish he was needed places to hide otherwise he would stress out big time. There was no light on the inside of the caves. That would have been very unnatural!

This technique may work for people to make raised areas in planted tanks. I wanted to try it.... but unfortionatly I no longer have that 59 gal.
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