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Wink First Aquascape , hardscape ....

This 20 gallon will be the first aquascape of my planted tanks. Was going to try a Sanzon Iwagumi style set up , but the rocks(Ohko stones) that i picked up are too large!
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  1. How do you chose rock size to tank size?
  2. Can Ohko stones be split with them retaining the cool shapes?
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Hey Kevin!

I don't think the stones are too large at all. I think that quite often the problem with some of these style aquarium is that the stones tend to be too small! Bigger stones make more of an impact to me. The smaller ones seem incidental.

Choosing stone to aquarium size is tough. Personally, I think when you find a stone that you feel is big enough...go bigger! The bigger stones just look more impressive and fill out the aquascape. I'd rather see two or three big stones than seven or eight small stones.

As far as breaking up the stone, I can't answer how the Ohko will respond.

I will say I wouldn't break up the stone. Instead, I think you should spend a little more time trying to lay them out (as if you haven't agonized over this already). The stone on the left is very vertical. It looks very tall. The stone on the right is squat. The others are lying so flatly they disappear.

Have you tried the grouping of three? The three largest stones laid out in a triangular pattern? That may help a little.

You can pull this off with the stones you have , Kevin. I am sure of that! I think it will take a little more time, maybe a couple of days of placing the stones and coming back to the hardscape later on, but you can make this perfect with what you have there!

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I'll have to agree. Those stones are gorgeous. Maybe a slightly deeper substrate with part of the tank bottom edge masked off like the Dutch do it could help.

Mind sharing where you got those lovely stones?
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I agree with the others - I wouldn't break those up, fewer large stones wins out over several smaller stones.
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Have you tried the grouping of three? The three largest stones laid out in a triangular pattern? That may help a little.
Mike,
This style is what i had been thinking of for a few months. Iwagumi, using a triangular pattern with the largest of the 3 in front and the smallest in back. Every time this style is tried i lose a lot of planting space. ( um... this were stem plants would come in to the scape)


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I'll have to agree. Those stones are gorgeous. Maybe a slightly deeper substrate with part of the tank bottom edge masked off like the Dutch do it could help.

Mind sharing where you got those lovely stones?
GH, found the Ohko stones at a LPS (LFS). The owner is a big fish head so he keeps a lot of cool rocks ,fish, plants that are hard to find in NC. If asking for that data base your working on shoot me p.m. and i give you more info.

Have not done to much reading on Dutch style aquariums, just enfu to understand what it is.


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A lot of time has been invested in to this layout. I still don't like it ,but it kinda looks like a mountain ridge.
what do you think?

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the picture is a little small, so i can't see it extremely well, but i like the way it looks. it has a lot of potential. it would be need to eventually see it with no stem plants, and a lot of grass or short growing plants. i think you should get rid of the in tank heater though and go with a hydor external.
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I think it will look lovely. When a nice carpet is grown, and as was mentioned, the stem plants are removed I think you'll have a masterpiece.
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i like it too... and yes it does look like looking at a mountain ridge...

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Thanks for the feed back....i have some hairgrass planted (i hope this time it will grow for me) and here i was so happy with my stem plants
a inline heater is in the plans as soon as i get the xp1 hooked up.
Does any one have any ideals for the left side .....
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Does any one have any ideals for the left side .....
how about a lotus? maybe a red tiger lotus to give some contrast or a smaller lilly might look cool.
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Well, I'm still playing with the hardscape. This is taking a long time, but I'm getting better (I hope)


and the first fish, a Crown Tail.


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with a 20gal tank,i would have used HC as the foreground and planted hairgrass behind. The 2 different leave shapes would have complemented one another. I love the way you have arranged your stones,hopefully i can do as well as you=).
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YOuHO..Not a lot of though has been put into the plants, but thats a great ideal. I'm going to have to find some HC now

hopefully i can do as well as you=).
Try to get more rocks/ driftwood than you will need. This is were I messed up on this tank (5 is all I could find)


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