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cichlid people, answer

I'm thinking of making a cichlid biotope. It could be lake malawi, or tanganyika. Has any one done this? If you have, then could you suggest good species of fish and plants. The tank will most likely be a 46g. I would like easy fish, that are not uncommon. And does anyone know if there are any catfish that could work. throughout this thread, I will propably ask some stupid questions, so bear with me.
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I'm a fan of Tanganyika cichlids. I just find them more interesting and less belligerent. My favorite is Neolamprologus brichardi which I usually keep in a species tank.

I've got some Julidochromis transcriptus in another tank and I'm liking those as well.

I like the brichardi because they allow previous broods of offspring to stay around the spawning site and help care for younger siblings. A single pair will eventually (think a few years rather than months) colonize an entire tank. I understand the transcriptus follow a similar pattern, but mine are just now getting close to spawning size.

There are other interesting tangs, such as the shell dwellers and calvus are also cool looking.
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Guy - for a Lake Tangykian setup - check out neolamprolgous busheri- they are amazing - actually, almost all of the "lamp" family is a nice aquatic investment .

Multis are great also- you can have many in a 40+ gallon tank.

Use a good buffering substrate in you tank - crushed coral is good. Easy on the wood (acidifies). If you plan to plant heavy or use high watt lighting - make sure you build your fish multiple hideouts with slate / rock combo!

Stick to 1 or 2 types of fish and natural behavior will be your reward - little babies too- I would skip the catfish on my tank - but I know peoples who love the plecos.

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A pair of Altolamprologus calvus or A. compressiceps would be an option. They do grow really slowly however. Any of the Juli's would be a great thought. They've got some interesting personalities. Check out shelldwellers like Neo. caudopunctatus and brevis. They are the two most common varieties.
Catfish wise, chick out Syn. multipunctatus and petricola. They look really similar, but the petricola are smaller. They do however harrass fish and can interfere with breeding of your fishies.
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Don't forget the anachris. As I understand it, this plant can process carbon from calcium carbonate, and I can tell you from experience it grows exceptionally well in very hard very alkaline water.
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Don't forget the anachris. As I understand it, this plant can process carbon from calcium carbonate, and I can tell you from experience it grows exceptionally well in very hard very alkaline water.
Breaking the ionic bond between Ca+ and CO3- isn't very strong, but it doesn't make sense that it would take the Carbon from CO3- when it's much easier to break the bonds from CO2. Just my 2cents.
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THank you everyone for replying. I tried to look up info on these fish, but didn't get much. So, could you give some links, or just tell me what you know.
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I've always wanted to see someone do a nice shelldweller tank.

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This isn't going to be much help I'm afraid, I don't know much about African cichlids, but my brother-in-law keeps brichardi with some type of catfish, I think he called it a cuckoo cat? Basically because it has the same reproductive anomaly, that of laying its eggs in the brichardi "nests" and then the brichardi take care of the offspring as their own. I don't believe he's actually been successful in getting them to breed however, although he's had numerous spawns of the brichardi.

Or maybe not . Apparently they destroy the cichlid spawn (much like the cuckoo nestlings shove the other babies out of the nest.)

www.planetcatfish.com article:

http://www.planetcatfish.com/cotm/2002_07.PHP

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mrbelvedere138: http://www.cichlidrecipe.com/shellweb/
This is a website all about shelldwellers.

I think I want some julidochromis, what would work well with them and would fit in a 46 gallon tank?
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roshawk, you are talking about Synodontis catfish. They eat cichlids eggs while they spawn, and replace them with thier own
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I have been to a lot of websites. The lemon cichlid feeding seems to be different at each one. some say carnovor, only live foods,omnivore, will eat pellits, hebivore, to likes tomatos. does any one know the real story??
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Only some syndontis deliver their eggs when the cichlids are spawning and I don't know of any that actually replace the eggs. What generally happens with species like the syndontis multipunctatis is they just deliver their eggs in front of the spawning female and the mother takes it up. The cat fry hatches a little earlier and proceeds to consume the rest of the eggs. It's pretty cool really but happens very rarely in the home aquarium.

As for planted with African... I could never do it but some claim it is possible. http://www.cichlid-forum.com/index.php will answer all your questions though and they're usually more right than the rest of the sites.

Oh, and yes, I've done a Malawi biotope before which is basically rocks and purposely growing algae, but I digress heh.
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