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Smile Im new, new tank!

Hi, this will be my first try in freshwater but this dont means Im new in the aquarium hooby, I have been in reef tanks for three years. I will use a minibow5 that use to be a nano reef. I will use this:

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screw pc bulb with coralife reflector
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substrate- need advise
plants- need advise
fishes- need advise

Thanks and sorry for my english, Pablo
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Hi and welcome!

do you know how many watts your light bulb is, and also the spectrum?
marine tanks also have a very high spectrum, which is not good for a planted tank.

for plants, it really depends on what you want the tank to look like (there are many styles). in a small tank like yours, you will not want too many fast growing stem plants, or maintenance will be a nightmare with all the required trimming. mosses like vesicularia (java moss) look nice nd arent very demanding on lighting or nutrients.

for fish, almost all tetras, rasboras, and small fish (under 2 inch) are suitable for this size tank. ottocinclus are very good for algae cleaning, as are amano shrimp.

for substrate, i always use flourite and had good results but i have not tried the other brands like eco complete or power sand.
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Thanks for the advises. Do you think a 6500k lighting will be OK and will not look very yellow? I have not buy the bulb so I dont know how many watts, I belive that more watts will be better right?

I will go to the LFS in this days and then I will post what substrate and plants and small fishes Im thinking buy.
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usually, 6700k - 10000k is used for planted tanks although i should thing that 6500k should be fine (someone else may want to butt in here)
you're tank is 5 gallons i presume? for a 5gal you could have from 15w to around 25w to get 3-5 watts per gallon
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I will try to find a 10,000k bulb because it will look more white.
messy_da_legend - thanks for the help.

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Will a 50/50 20w bulb support some plants until I bough a lower kelvin bulb? I use this bulb in my minibow5 when it was a nano reef.
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hi 20reefer, I just joined as well, and I am a fellow reefer as well.

I am setting up a 110 gallon tank for my wife.. (well, really just planning right now.)

no good thing every happens fast in the aquarium hobby.
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RamPuppy- is true, we have to be patient.
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Well the actinic light has no positive effect on plants so essentially you'll have only 10w of light. Also when you get to a tank size of less than about 20 gallons the watt per gallon rule doesn't really work. You could easily put 20-40 watts over a 5 gallon without any problems as long as you keep up with the fertilizers and CO2.

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I will use that bulb until I found a better one.
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The 50/50 bulb is fine. The actinic will give you a good balance of color in your plants and fish. And as far as benefits go, that is still in controversy, though many have already reported on the difference in plant growth habit while using actinics.

In your 5 gallon tank, I will suggest small crypts, dwarf lobelia cardinalis, and your choice of several different mosses.

For fish, there are sparkling gouramis, red badis badis, pygmy cories, and several types of shrimp.

For substrate, you can use anything from plain sand to ADA substrate. I have a 2.5 gallon that I converted from saltwater to freshwater. I kept the original white marine sand, and I have plants growing fine in that tank.
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sarahbobarah- thanks fro the reply, I was hoping the 50/50 will work because I love the color. I will do a search for that plants because I dont know anything about how they look. I also was thinking in adding a sparkling gourami or a badis but first I have to visit my LFS because I dont know if they carry thems. I never visit the freshwater section in my LFS so I dont know what species the have; I always were in the saltwater section. I decide to do a planted tank because this site inspired me.
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sarahbobarah- what sand did you use?
can I use the moss that grows in damp places?

How much takes driftwood to cure?

Here are some pics of what I will use:

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The sand I used was Live sand in a bag.

Curing drifwood should only take about a day or so. Unless you got the wood from a park or something, then I'd drop it in boiling water too. Some people soak their wood for about a week. It depends on how much the wood colors your water, so it would be up to you.

Most moss that grows in damp places won't survive under water for long. If you want to collect moss, I would suggest looking in places that have them under water all the time.

This looks like a pretty good start. Happy fish hunting!
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You will need a lot more lighting that a single CF bulb.

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80L plant/shrimps nursery tank inconnected with the main tank
Total 600W HQI, 2 X 5200K 2 X 6500K
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Dupla Substrate Heater
Dupla S external reactor
Aquamedic 2hp & Teco R15 400W chillers
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Light period: 6 hours on each bulb across 12 hours
Water Parameters: pH 6.4, KH 2, GH 1, NO3 40, PO4 1 TDS 250
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