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Dry start method questions.

I just started my dry start method with HC and DHG last night. I tried searching and found mixed answers. Am I suppose to leave an opening in the syran wrap or seal it tight?

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Keep a small opening to allow gas exchanges
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Btw, I have no standing water but I have a very aggressive slope and am afraid to have the higher levels dry out. Tilting is not an option.
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yes, don't have any standing water. the water should be 1-2cm below the lowest point of your substrate. if you have standing water on the lower parts in order to keep the higher parts moist, you will either get mold or the plants in the parts standing in water will melt in a few weeks.

depending on the size of your tank, you can keep the half with the slope covered tightly and have a 'varied' humidity throughout. this will probably not work on smaller tanks. I had a glass lid covering 3/4 of my 40gal with the back part that had the slope completely sealed. however, I had a pretty steep slope as well and the very top of the slope would dry out within 1-2 hours of misting. I ended up just leaving that part bare...not going to try to bang my head against a brick wall.
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Why is tilting not an option? It's an easy solution.
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I have a mini-l. I tightly covered the top with syran wrap but have two small openings in the front corners. I noticed some mold/fungus growing over night so I spot treated with h2o2. I'm avoiding misting to not encourage anymore mold/fungus growth. I left my house and hoping for the top not to dry out by the time I get home.
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Why is tilting not an option? It's an easy solution.
I have an aggressive slope and in order for tilting to be effective I'd basically need to tilt the tank on the back left corner.
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I've been doing the DSM for 5 weeks now and I do not keep an opening. I keep the saran wrap closed for the entire day, and mist once in the morning and leave the saran wrap open for 15 minutes before misting.

I have had really good growth with this method. I'll post pictures in a moment.

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@Wolf19 So you've been able to keep your substrate that wet without any fungus/mold issues?

here's how mine currently looks
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Yes. I do not have any standing water so keep that in mind. I did at one point, and I placed a small towel down to soak it up for a few hours. Thats the only real check that I do at this point. If there is any standing water I will reduce the volume of misting the following morning.

To keep humidity I've been making sure the wood is soaked and holding moisture.
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This is the opening I have right now. I lightly misted the higher HC with excel solution and will be monitoring today. I'm probably going to buy a hygrometer today to be safe.


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That is a nice scape. As long as there is water that the roots can get to then you will be fine. I have mine tilted back right now with no real issues, just helps the water be a little more level.

What size tank is that?
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Since this is going to take some time before you will fill the tank with water, why not invest enough to make it "tiltable"? Just get a piece of 3/4" plywood a few inches bigger than the tank bottom, attach a side board on two adjacent sides, so you have a corner with sides. Put the tank on that so the high substrate corner is tucked back into the corner of the plywood having sides. Now you can prop that piece of plywood up so the subtrate is nearly level, without over stressing the glass joints. This will be easiest if the plywood looks like:

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I just read somewhere that trimming dhg will cause mold to grow at the tips? Is that true?
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I just read somewhere that trimming dhg will cause mold to grow at the tips? Is that true?
Trimmed mine before planting, not seeing an issue.
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