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Hello:

what is the best filter for a 125 planted tank with fish

1- fluval 404 & aquaclear 500
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2-RENA pharr filstar XP 3

also can I add a bubble maker in that tank??

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OK, first off, "best" is a very subjective term. It will depend on quiet a laundry list of factors. I can tell you what Iíve found:
I had a Fluval 304 for over 8 years (round canister), and it worked great. A lot of people donít like them for reasons of By-pass (water bypasses the filter material), and being ďcheapĒ.
I had an Aqua Clear, loved the fact that you pick your media, but the top on mine rattled. I donít know if they fixed that problem, or I caused it by keeping stuff on top of it, and warping the top.
When I set up again, I looked at the Filstar XP3, Great price, great flow, great media container, but I saw a lot of reviews that people said they were noisy, and I didnít want to take a chance on it.

As far as the bubble maker: If you are working to inject CO2 into your aquarium, a bubbler will create surface turbulence which will drive the CO2 back out of the water.
So if you are injecting CO2, you can either skip the bubbler, or work harder to put more in. If you arenít injecting it, youíll drive out what little CO2 the fish make.

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If those are your choices #2, no bubbles.
If you plan on adding CO2, I would go 3xXP3 with one of them with the inline reactor.
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It's seems very complicate having a planted tank, I'm thinking maybe fake plants..................
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It's seems very complicate having a planted tank, I'm thinking maybe fake plants..................

It's not that hard but it can be expensive. Take a few minutes and read my Guide.
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It's not that hard but it can be expensive.
true dat!!!...

I've spent about 2600$ on my 75 gallon tank. The bigger the tank the bigger the bill. Including the price of the tank and stand, I'm guessing your looking at around 3 grand for a high tech 125 gallon planted tank. Of course thats just an estimate.

75 gallon, fillstar xp2 with inline reactor, 12 Lb pressurised co2, 4.2 WPG-corallife 3x96 watt PC-, fluorite/silica-sand substright.
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Is there any plants that does not need extra (like fertilizers, CO2) just plants that lives in water

I want to have a natural envirement for my sharks, so I would like to have plants.....................

I'm going with the fluval 304 & aquaclear 500, a bubble maker, flurascent lighting and moon lighting for evening...............
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Is there any plants that does not need extra (like fertilizers, CO2) just plants that lives in water

I want to have a natural envirement for my sharks, so I would like to have plants.....................

I'm going with the fluval 304 & aquaclear 500, a bubble maker, flurascent lighting and moon lighting for evening...............
Any (very rare exception) anubias, most crypts, amazon swords, lotus, java ferns. Stem plants will not do too well in low light no co2 and no ferts. I would add some root tabs under them every few months though. You can help them with some flourish excel, easy and very little work.
I have never kept any sharks so I dont know how hard they are on plants.


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i had a low-light tank for several years (only 6 gallons so not quite the same situation) and it worked really well. Had java moss, anubias and crypts. The growth was pretty slow but it was a nice tank - no algae problems. Stay away from stem plants or ones that are listed as "fast-growers".
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But even to keep the "low light" plants in a 125 you are going to need to upgrade the lighting.

I seem to recall that the standard 125 comes with 3 24" strips that each put out a whopping 20 watts each. That would be less than 0.5 watts per gallon and you would really want to get up to at least 1.5 wpg.

The best thing to get started would be 3 55 watt kits from AH Supply if you have the 24" strips. That would give you some light and with careful placement of the plants they might even grow.
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