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Weird snail shells... help

My 20G has a baby Zebra pleco, ~50 baby guppies, and Ramshorn snails. The Ramshorn snails shells are growing uneven... The only thing I could think of is not enough calcium. I have calcium chloride CaCL2, should I put some in? How much? Is there anything bad that could happen if I add too much calcium


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Can you check your GH/kh? You probably do need some calcium. That is what their shells are made of.
It usually doesn't take a lot of calcium - I use QuikJoe IceMelt which is CaCl2 and I only put a few little granules in water to add some.

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My gh is below 20ppm (thats as low as my kit goes) and my kh is 110ppm. What is a good gh for snails?


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"My gh is below 20ppm (thats as low as my kit goes) and my kh is 110ppm. What is a good gh for snails?"

Your numbers are possible but unlikely. I suggest that you get another test kit. They do lose accuracy over time. I use API. There are others.

A GH of 7 or more would be fine for snails unless you have very strange water.

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Why are my nubers unlikely?


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The numbers are unlikely because usually the GH is larger than the KH. Not always, but usually. Your KH of 110 PPM (6 to 7 degrees) and GH of less than 20 ppm (1 + degrees) just don't sound right, and the fact that the snails are showing signs of calcium deprivation supports that.

Here's a link to an introduction to GH, KH, and a lot of other things.

http://www.thekrib.com/Plants/CO2/

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Easy to increase GH. just add some crushed shells or coral into the filter, but remember to monitor the increase and add slowly.
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Do you have a water softener?
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Yes I do, but I don't think the out-back hose is hooked up to the water softener... I added CaCL2 to up the gh and that worked fine. So I guess problem solved. Thanks everyone


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Try mixing non-softened water with your tap water. The water is free and will have the same effect. In fact you might try just using non-softened water in your tanks.

The water softener explains the disparity between the gH and kH figures.
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But the water softener is NOT hooked up to the outback hose.


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This is what happens to snail shells with no GH:


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But the water softener is NOT hooked up to the outback hose.

Did you test the water from that outlet? Do you use the water from that outlet?
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