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better way to change water

I'm getting really sick of doing weekly water changes the way I do them.

My tank is 29 gallons. 29 minus 5 gallons displaced by substrate and other stuff and I end up changing about 24/2 = 12 gallons.

I siphon into a five gallon bucket, which is quick and easy.

The part that is really getting old is re-filling 12 one gallon milk jugs, or rather one one gallon milk jug twelve times.

I want some way to run the water straight from a water source, my sink I guess, and into the tank, but also get the chlorine and chloramines, etc., out of the water.

So how do you do your water changes? I need some solutions and fast.

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yep, python will do it with ease. both draining and refilling.

I dont personally like using a python for water drainage though, so I run pool hosing from my tank to my bathtub (~40 feet), drain, and then use the python to refill.

Just add the dechloriminator to the water prior to refilling.

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This subject has been discussed many many times here.

Buy a Python or build something like it. Dose the tank with Prime for the full tank volume and fill the tank.

Also you might take a look at my water changing aid for an idea.

No need to use the venturi pump with the Python. Just start a siphon and run the hose out a door or window.
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Rex- I checked your website and searched here for your aid... I can't find it... please help!
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Another alternative is (basically the same) buy some hose and sink fitting to fill. Then buy more hose and attach a small powerhead pump to drain. Thats what I do on my 90. It takes about 45 minutes to do a water change. I could cut that in half if I ever pop for a bigger pump, as I have a 50 gallon change water tank which pumps out a bit slow. I use a shower head to put the water back in the tank. I think I saw this setup on Bill Barada's website, who is a member of this forum.





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Rex- I checked your website and searched here for your aid... I can't find it... please help!
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Hardware area. DIY at the bottom of the page.
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Ok, neat...thanks!

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Here's a picture of my water changing setup. I generally change only 20% of the water, so dechlorinating isn't really needed, but it can be added to the tank if you want.



The valve on each end of the hose allows the hose to be stored full of water, so it automatically starts the siphon at the beginning of the water change.

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I just use a garden hose the drain must be lower than the tank is of course. I hook it up to the faucet and turn it on till no bubbles come out the end, unscrew the connection and the siphon is going. Then I break teh siphon at the tank end hook it back up and fill.
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I was doing the same thing for a long time with my 10 and 20. I got rid of the milk jugs in favor of a small Mag 2. Now I just fill up the same 5 gal bucket and pump the water back in.
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why are you doing 50% water changes, if you can keep your nitrates under 20ppm with a 10% then that is all that you should need.
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why are you doing 50% water changes, if you can keep your nitrates under 20ppm with a 10% then that is all that you should need.

It's not all about the nitrates. Since I use a modified Estimative Index I do 50% water changes about every 8-10 days.

If you run a high light CO2 injected tank with a high nutrient load it helps keep everything running well. Besides it's also good for the fish.

To me it's the same as living in your own filth. If you like that sort of thing then fine. In the natural environment our fish have a constant supply of fresh water. In the aquarium that is not the case.

If you want to question the practice of water changes then start a thread doing so.
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if he has a bio load so large that he has to do a weekly 50% water change to keep it free of waste then he has an extremely overstocked tank. also large water changes stress the fish a 10% water change every couple of days would be just as effective and less stressful to the fish and provides that constant supply of fresh water. i don't want to question weither or not water changes should be performed, they should be performed in any tank no matter how small or how large, its just the amount of water changed that i question.
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Prove it.

You say that large water changes stress the fish. Prove it.

My LFS does 50% water changes on ALL tanks 7 days a week.

Breeders and Discus keepers also tend to do large regular water changes.

So just prove it.

No hearsay. No opinions. Prove it.
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