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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 09-28-2005, 02:48 AM Thread Starter
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??? about 5g cube planted darter tank

i want to do a heavy planted 5g cube for a brown darter(Etheostoma edwini?)(possibly a pair if they will fit) a trio of long finned danios and a trio of ghost shrimp. i have the glass for the tank just haven't put them together yet tank dimmensions will be 11"x11 3/8"x11". i want to use my aquaclear10 [email protected] for current and three 10watt flouresent light bulbs for lighting, thinking for substrate using a thin layer of peat moss, a layer of small gravel and about 2 inches of fine grained silica sand that i brought home from the beach. i'm thinking for plants
dwarf hairgrass
dwarf anubias
wristeria
anachris
a short wide red plant that the lfs owner calls cryptocoryne and has had forever, i now think it is micro crypt
micro sword
anubias barteri
java fern
baby tears
could i do all of this in my tank or do i need to change something?
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The only problem I forsee is that the darter might suffer if the tank gets too warm. They need a lot of O2 and warm water doesn't carry much. Oh the Anubius barteri will get too big for the 5, and the anachris is generally a cool water plant.

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if i use a fan i can probably keep the water under 82 degrees and i don't plan on a co2 injector. will it still work? and if/when the anubias gets too big, i'll tranfer it into a planted brackish tank
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If you don't inject CO2, use the SeaChem Excel. I use it in my 2 gallon nanocube and the plants are going gangbusters.

The fan is going to cause alot of evaporation, keep up with the water changes so you don't end up with liquid rock for water in the tank

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where can i get seachem excel and about how much will it cost me? will my plants be ok without any additives?
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Danyal - I don't have darters. But I've read up on them because I thought about keeping them, and am under the impression that 82 degrees is way to warm for them. Have you researched this variety? And do you know they can tolerate that?

A few good reference sites are the North American Native Fish Association, and the Native Fish Conservancy.

And also an unbeliveably good reference on darters, if you don't have it, is American Aquarium Fishes by Goldstein, Harper and Edwards.

But if you do do this, I hope you are going to take pictures!

Steve - 33g reef and a 180g planted in need of a re-scape.
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if i can ever learn how to take some decent pics and learn how to post them then i will be glad to post tons. i 'm hoping that the tank will stay cool enough but it gets hot here and i had some spikes this summer in my ten gallon that got up to 86 degrees, do you know of any good/cheap ways to cool a tank?
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ice packs. You can buy plastic ice cubes that fill with water. There meant for drinks, but they work great. Do some experiments, like (X) amount of cubes will cool the tank to (X) deggres, for (X) amount of hours...ect

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i don't want any quick and sudden changes in the tank, it will stress the fish too much. i'm doing all of this for a darter the plants just look nice and the danios are just to add a little more movement to the tank, i might not even add them if it think it might crowd the darter(s) if i add ice cubes i don't want to take a chance on changing things too fast and killing the fish
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