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Advice on a tank from scratch. (substrate & filtration stage)

This is my first attempt at planning out a tank. My 55 gallon was more a gradual evolution from knowing nothing.

So far, I only have the tank...




So the next logical step would be the substrate.


I'm thinking about going with ADA Aqua Soil Africana simply because it's the only brown stuff I know of that should be easy to plant in. I also want the look of soil and since this tank is roughly 10 gallons this is an affordable opportunity to try the stuff. The Power Sand is an added cost I'd like to avoid.

Does Power Sand have any advantage over a thin layer of peat and mulm?

After I get the substrate in place I'll be looking for a very small canister filter. So far, I'm leaning towards the smallest Eheim Ecco. What do you think? I really don't want to spend a lot but I hate HOTB filters.

Any advice or comments?

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I like that tank, were did you find it if I may ask? my little 10 is fugly, blue seems with black frame, bah...

Not sure about the amazonia, but I have Flora Base sub with peat and can grow anything, especially the softwater plants

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I like that tank, were did you find it if I may ask?
They are made in Hong Kong and this one was sent to me by a resident of California who found one at a LFS. I do not know the name of the LFS. The guy said that they have apparently decided to stop carrying them. It is glass.

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...I have Flora Base sub with peat and can grow anything
Is the Flora Base light weighted? Does it float when disturbed? Does it hold plants well and is it easy to plant?

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Yes it is lightweight, floats about like eco complete in other words it is just like EC (except in color/Tan-ish) in that it is light & easy to plant, but grows better.. but was $30 a bag
That is why I only built a 10 for now.

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I would by all means try Aquasoil, won't break your bank for a tank that small plus a chance to experiment with the probably the best.
For a filter, may I suggest to go with an Italian instead of German - http://www.bigalsonline.com/catalog/...711&pcid1=2885
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Yes it is lightweight, floats about like eco complete...
I'm looking for something heavy.


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For a filter, may I suggest to go with an Italian instead of German - http://www.bigalsonline.com/catalog/...711&pcid1=2885
I had never even considered a hydor. Are they silent? Whatever I get has to be dead silent. Tank's in the bedroom.


I'm thinking about getting a 55w kit from AH Supply and building my own enclosure. Also thinking about buying the mounting legs to something like a Coralife Aqualight and attaching them to the enclosure.

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I would by all means try Aquasoil, won't break your bank for a tank that small plus a chance to experiment with the probably the best.
For a filter, may I suggest to go with an Italian instead of German - http://www.bigalsonline.com/catalog/...711&pcid1=2885

I'll take a BMW over a FIAT any day.

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How about one of these as an external canister filter for your 10 gallon tank?

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I'm thinking about going with ADA Aqua Soil Africana simply because it's the only brown stuff I know of that should be easy to plant in.
If the only reason that your getting ADA Soil is because you like the brown color then you could go with Schultz Aquatic Soil. It's about $6 a bag and is brown also... just an idea.


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If he is looking for something heavy though SAS is about the lightest thing I have every worked with.
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I had never even considered a hydor. Are they silent? Whatever I get has to be dead silent.
Yes, they are silent. The price is terrific too.
Here's some info from Hydor's site http://www.hydor.it/inglese/faq3.htm.
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I received the ADA Aquasoil Amazonia the other day.

I have ordered a mini canister filter discussed here. Thanks capricorn77.

I'll be dosing EI and Excel for carbon.

So now I have everything but the lighting. Since the filter is external and tank is rimless, I definitely have to go Amano style with this and use a pendant light. If I have to custom make one that's ok.

I want this 10 gal to be a miniature version of what my planned ADA 75 will look like.

Given the ferts and excel dosing, I'm assuming I'll need high light. The tank is 23.5 x 8.5 x 12.0. How many watts do I need and what's the best light to get this into the tank?


I'm thinking either an AHSupply 36w or 55w kit and then building a custom pendant enclosure. Which light would work better?

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Glad I read this--I never knew there were such teeny canister filters out there! Thanks,
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