excellent info, thank you rex
dude, rex, you rule!
the $10-20 per gallon equation helps big time. we are just working out the budget now, so I need to get that worked out as far as cost vs. size is concerned. that was a big help. I myself will not be building the stand, we have a metal worker for that, and he's pretty cheap, but not that cheap, Im thinking $600 for the stand. some of this cost will be absorbed by the actual building of the bar, as I think the tank should go in the middle of an island bar (so no one can mess with it). also good call on the eco-complete, I would love the black subs. for the sexy look it gives. however, do you think I could get away with using a mixture of eco. and some gravel/sand I pull out of a pond? my mother has quite a large beaver pond on her property in N.H. and I was thinking I could harvest somethings out of there. especially hardscape, the beavers have been dragging all kinds of things in there for years. def. going to have some kick ass swords in there, and other non stems too (java fern out the wazoo). what are some other plants that get big big? giant anubias?.... whatever this is all for later, right now cost is key. so lets say that I cut the tank down to something like 320/350 gallons, how does that change the ammount of filtration I need to purchase? my guess is that it cut it down to about half of what you listed above, but maybe not. the lighting cost and install seems fine, how about the electric bill? also CO2, pressurized obviously. OMG maybe I could attach it to the C02 for the beer taps, wow, thats an interesting thought! also speaking of beer, I will be sitting around a lot during the day waiting for the beer/liq delivery guys, so I will have time for primping and pruning, maybe some stem plants are in order. also, what can you tell me about custom built tanks, I have the metal guy, I have the glass guy, what should I know?
thanks for your help, give me a few months, and if you come to NYC, I got a cold beer (and hopefully a huge tank) for you.