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Miracle-Gro Organic Choice - Sift or not?

For those that are using Miracle gro and then cap it, do you Sift the large wood and what not out before you put it in the tank?


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I did. Don't want them floating.

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I did not. I simply picked the large pieces out. In hindsight, probably should have done so - I am still leeching large amounts of tannin ~3 months after setup.


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smaller than a 2x4 leave it


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I removed any large pieces, but didn't go crazy over it.

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I removed the larger wood bits but I found that if you seal the bag and leave it in your shed or other covered outdoor space it will all break down into a rich black loam in 4-6 months. At that point it is perfect for mixing with mineralized top soil.
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smaller than a 2x4 leave it
lol... thats what i did


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lol... thats what i did
Hey! this is like two posts made in the same month I think!

on topic add in, The more you remove the sooner you exhaust the reserve and the sooner it falls off supplying the plants


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I left it as is just poured it into the tank added my sand cap and filled the tank slowly no issue with tannins after the first 2-3 weeks still have bubbles coming out of the substrate after 2 months figure another month or two and that will stop as well. As was said above the more you leave in the more there is for your plants to feed on longer.

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Thanks everyone for the advise, at this point, I am tired of sifting. In the tank it goes, no more sifting.
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Put it in a 5g bucket, fill with water and skim off the bark. Then dump the water and dirt mix into the tank. If you have time leave the bucket to settle for an hour or 2. Drain off the extra water then dump into tank

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Put it in a 5g bucket, fill with water and skim off the bark. Then dump the water and dirt mix into the tank. If you have time leave the bucket to settle for an hour or 2. Drain off the extra water then dump into tank

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MGOCPM (potting mix) contains only a small amount of soil and a large portion of organic material (55-65% by volume). Sphagnum peat moss, composted bark fines, leaves, twigs, wood chips and "pasteurized poultry litter" (cooked chicken crap).

Paying for the partially composted materials why the heck would you screen any of it out? Floating it in a bucket you might as well throw half of it out and (imo) you bought the wrong stuff. The organics are time release reserves and soaking it then draining off the extra water the "pasteurized poultry litter" which is the nitrate starter pack for the plants is wasted.


Trying twists and turns on the idea I've done both screening and soaking.
Screened removed 50% total volume.
I ended up with about a 3.5g volume in both buckets.




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I'd also rinse with rain water/distilled water.
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I believe in the 1:1 ratio using MCOMPS and Caribsea Pearl River gravel for capping the dirt. This gravel media is rounded and essential in protecting the sensitive barbs of the Corydoras Sterbai catfish. Nothing live should be added until the tank's contents have had time to settle.Adding small plants is OK into the dirt but nothing life. I am still debating whether to use the nylon screen to prevent the corys from digging deeper into the dirted substrate.
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