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Overflow Drain Standpipe type?

For those of you that have sump/overflows in your tank, what type of drain are you running?

Herbie?
Durso?
Bean?
Something else?


Right now my overflow is setup with kinda Herbie style.

I have 2 overflows. 2 holes in each overflow box. I have one setup as drain in each box, along with return in each box. I don't have backup running, as being able to run my returns over the back of my tank is not an option.

I have to decrease the flow so much, that sometimes I don't think I am getting enough flow in my tank, and without running what called the backup drain for the Herbie, I think that puts me at risk for the tank to overflow at some point?

I am thinking of just switching to Durso, it not ideal, but should help with the overflow sump being loud.

Wanted to get others thoughts on this, stick with Herbie or go with the Durso?

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I have an HOB overflow box with two holes and am running a Herbie without the pump being choked back at all.

I did use a Durso in January before I got the two bulkhead overflow. The pump needed to be choked back but it was very quiet. Checked my notes on this one. Same pump, same size bulkhead and piping.

Running 2 Dursos could be more water going through than 1 Herbie though. PVC is cheap, as long as the plumbing is easy to get in and out it is definitely worth trying, mine was just wedged in place with no glue or even threads. Just don't leave the room for a few hours after changing things over!


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I used the Durso for years in my SW tank but have the Herbie in my 150 planted. The Durso is going to be louder than the Herbie but without the backup drain I would be hesitant to use the Herbie. With my double overflow I have to make an occasional adjustment. I stitched back to the Durso once just to compare and I couldn't stand the noise and went back to the Herbie right away. I use powerheads to compensate for lower pump flow.


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So I think I am just going to stay with Herbie and go over the back with the returns. Wife dose not like how loud durso is. The bulk heads are 1 inch each in each drain. What size should I use for the primary and for the secondary? I was thinking 1 1/4 inch for primary and 1 inch for backup? Return is 1 inch.
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I only own 1 fresh water tank, it has fish in at the time I converted it to a sump and I use the standard PVC ubend style! I have some long grass building up to cover it but found it highly reliable, highly effective and simple in concept.

On my Salt I use trough style with bulk heads in the back of the glass - it is easier to install over flows when the tank is not already running LOL
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So I think I am just going to stay with Herbie and go over the back with the returns. Wife dose not like how loud durso is. The bulk heads are 1 inch each in each drain. What size should I use for the primary and for the secondary? I was thinking 1 1/4 inch for primary and 1 inch for backup? Return is 1 inch.
I would go with that plan. You are going to throttle back what drains through your primaries anyway so whatever might get through your secondary even if you clogged up completely should be easily handled. Run a test in that after you are set up just to make sure.


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