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HOW MUCH CURRENT? HOW should I direct my returns?

I don't know if my plants should be blowing around like corals in a reef tank or there should only be a very slight one.

Do people put additional power heads in thier plant tanks? It seems like most people just use a canister filter, IMO they are not very strong current makers.

My tank is a 200 gallon and I have an Iwaki 70 rlt with 4 returns.
Where would you guys point them?
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I have two filters. One has the spraybar and is set along the left wall to spray horizontally across the tank (at about a 25 degree downward angle). The other filter has an open output (no spraybar) and I have that angled toward the front glass at about a 20 degree angle. I get a slight swirl in the tank which my rasaboras seem to enjoy playing in as well as my otos.

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My spraybar will also be set up to flow left to right across the tank.

Ill have to fiddle with the angle though.
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I prefer enough current to keep all the gunk from settling on the plants. If your tank is a jungle this can be hard to do. You don't need so much current that your plants are laying flat against the substrate.

It pretty much boils down to what looks good to you.
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I thought you lose a lot of CO2 with spraybars
Does anyone blow water down and across the back of the tank?
One thing I have noticed in my 20 years in the hobbie (mostly with reef) is that no matter what you do there are going to be dead spots where detritus collects!!
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If you use the spraybars above the waterline pointing down, yes you will lose more co2.

If you put it 2" or so below the waterline and aimed just enough for little surface movement.

But its like Rex said for keeping a little current keep the scum off of stuff.
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I have 2 spraybars on my 100 and i moved them around for almost a year, trying to figure out how to keep the plants clean and get more of an even water current. I finally settled with one on the left wall and one on the right both pointing into the center. It may not feel like a river to the fish, but it works.


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can someone please explain to me what a spray bar is? is it the same as a power head?
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spray bar is a pipe that has a role of pinholes, its on the end of most canister filter returns.
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The bar on the right

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I use a power head for additional circulation. After adding an inline reactor my canister didn't have enough flow. IMO water movement should be strong enough to create a slow sway in stem plants. Not a lot, but just enough where you need to put your nose up against the glass to notice


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I just did the same, bought and added 2 Zoo-med sweeping powerheads.
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I've been using an XP2 with the single outlet (not the spraybar) for over a year now on my 75 gallon. I finally decided that it wasn't enough current, so I added a Maxi-jet 900 powerhead on the opposite end of the tank as the filter return, and then aimed it slightly at the front glass and towards the return end. noticably more current now, but doesn't feel like too much either.
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