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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-25-2002, 10:14 PM Thread Starter
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OK, just thought I would post a question about one of my plants. Well..my readily reproducing jungle val is producing clear leaves, they eventually turn green, but only which age, and some leaves haven't even turned green yet. Is this a nitrate problem?

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I have some Jungle Val in my tank. The new shoots usually come out white or a pale green. Then they'll turn green as the grow out. I pull pieces of jungle val out of my tank that are 4 feet long sometimes.

As for your nitrate question, I have to little info to go on. How much light do you have? CO2 injection? size of tank? heavily planted? Do you supplement the tank with aquatic plant fertilizer? Water changes?Or you can get a nitrate test kit and that'll tell you the story on that.
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OK, I inject CO2 (yeast) using a DIY reactor seen here. I have 2.75 watts of light, and plan on making my NO light a ODNO light soon, tomorrow actually! And I have flourite substrate. I don't fertalize yet. I do water changes everyother day 20 % (algae problem). Its a 55 gallon, and I just added some Rotala Macronda today, as well as 2 amazon swords ($1.99 at my LFS!), and a green crypt. It is moderatly-heavily plated, but I'm getting some more stem plants this next week, so then it will be heavily planted.

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I think your jungle val is fine. Your bigger problem is the algae bloom. Usually caused by excess phosphorous and to a lesser degree nitrates. Do you use an Ammo lock type product when doing water changes? That could be adding phosphorous to your tank. If your tank is established you don't need it. Your plants prefer ammonia as a nitogen source.
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I add Kents Ammonia Detox to my tap water, but not nearly enough to treat the whole tank. I use this because it is what my LFS has and I can't seem to find anything that neutralizes just chorline and chloramine. Would adding the Ammonia Detox to the tank also neutralize ammonia _in the tank_? Any suggestions on a new water conditioner if this is the case. Thanks for the reply!

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There is one product out there called "Tap water conditioner". I'm not sure who makes it. I have city water and I used to use Amquel but then I read on a couple of sights that a lot of people don't use any additives, so I gave it a try. I haven't been using any additives for about 6 months now. I think your safe as long as you don't do more than a 25% water change. Smaller water changes, more often, is better for your fish anyway. I do about 15-20% once a week.
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NO additives, not even a simple dechlorinator? Wouldn't that kill the fish...?

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The chlorine will leave the water (so I've been told) if you let it stand a few hours before adding it, no additives needed. I just put it straight in with no additives and haven't had any ill effects to my angelfish.:hehe:

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When I worked at a LFS, we used a python for water changes every day and never used dechlorinator. Granted, each city water is different and I've drank water that tasted like pool water, but there are indeed some areas that can get away without it. Right now, I don't use any dechlorinator.

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I'll have to try it on my 10 gallon first... I'll do some small water changes without dechlorinator.

Why then, do people say that chlorine is lethal to fish, if it is OK to not dechlorinate the water?

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Chlorine is not good for fish, but its all a matter of degree. If you're starting a new tank with 100% chlorinated water then it makes sense to add dechlorinator. You gotta remember that the chlorinated water in a 20% water change is getting diluted with 80% unchlorinated water. In effect the chlorine concentrations will be 20% or 1/5 of what the water coming out of your tap would be. Whats more that chlorine will have completely dissipated in about 2-3 hours. I had an industrial Ed. teacher that used to say,"The solution to pollution is dilution" lol.
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