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Plants in an Eclipse 29?

Hello everyone... I am new to this forum but i have been keeping a planted tank for 3 years (well trying anyway!) I am getting a 29 g eclipse tank for my birthday and I am setting it up as a SA biotype with angels and apistos and such. I want to try and keep some plants in there if possible but I am not sure if it will work? Has anyone tried this?
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There are many plants that will work in a south american biotope. Basically any plants will be good with your angels, apistos, etc ... however I recommend something along the lines of anubias, sword, and java fern plants.
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29G seems kinda small for angels, don't you think?


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You are working with 30 watts of light that point toward the back of the tank. There are some plants that you can grow in your tank. But the selection is limited.
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OK i just brought my 29 home tonite and set it up. Right now i have just 20 lbs of spectrastone on the bottom. I am not sure what sort of plant substrate I would use on top of that? I haven't put any water in yet. I am going to start with RO water from work (i work at my lfs) as my tap water is horrible! I used Onyx sand last time and I hate it. I like dark substrate and instead of being onyx it is gray! Also it buffers the water so the ph and hardness went up. My plants aren't doing well, even though I have a Coralife power compact light on them. I am thinking that the high ph and hardness are the cause of that? i have mostly sword plants. Is this worth trying or should i just use silk plants?
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You can use eco complete if you like the dark color, I would try starting out with some fast growers first.
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Eco Complete is dark, right? I was thinking of using that next time I set up a tank.

I'm not sure how much light you have but if you need more, AHSupply.com sells retrofit kits that you could put in your Eclipse hood. I have no experience with wiring and I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to do it, but I have successfully installed five 55-watt kits. They were very easy to do.

If you don't want to put more light in, you could always grow Java ferns, Java moss, and some other low light plants. Low light tanks can be just as pretty, in my opinion.

It takes some work and there's lots to learn, but I'm sure you can turn your 29g into a pretty planted tank. Don't give up!
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Java Moss is awesome! That is because it is the one plant i have been able to get to thrive and basically take over my entire 55! My N. brichardi love to eat it to! Do you think swords would grow well in low light? From what understand they take most of their nutrition from the substrate and don't need much light? I have had the same java fern plant attached to my driftwood for two year and well it doesnt die...it doesnt grow either? How is eco complete as a substrate? Does it affect the water parameters? ps...i mention silk plants when i am frustrated...but i love live plants...i dont think i could NOT have them...
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Eco complete shouldn't affect the water parameters. I think I'm definetly going to try it in my next tank. It looks really nice.

I think that some swords will do okay in low light. I was growing amazons in low light for a while. Like you said, they will survive but not really grow.

I also think that several of the crypt species will do well in a low light tank.

I like to use http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...nder/index.php and http://www.tropica.com/default.asp to find plants that fit my tank specifics.
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Try Val

Try Jungle Vallisneria. It does OK in hard, alkaline water, and the Angels should love it.
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Just a note. AH Supply kits will not fit easily into an Eclipse hood.
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Sunpaq makes a retrofit for the Eclipse 3 with 65W PC. Simple to install, but you have to get a 6700K bulb. See link from Drs Foster & Smith

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I tried working with an Eclipse III hood on a 29g for a long time and unfortunately it never really supported plant growth very well...it worked, but growth was stunted and slow. I was also restricted to a few, low-light species. The retrofit lighting kits are NOT safe to install (fire hazard, per Marineland (most retailers won't even sell you a retrofit kit if they know it's for an Eclipse)...canopy is cheap plastic, not ventilated, and is built to be used without a reflector), the stock lighting is no good (2x18w T8), the filtration causes too much surface agitation, and the filter pads are expensive and a joke.

Don't get me wrong, the Eclipse hoods are great for a regular 'fish tank', they're just way out of their league when it comes to effectively supporting a planted tank.

That being said, if you really want to grow plants and are married to the Eclipse III hood, check out http://saltaquarium.about.com/gi/dyn...reflector.html, put in two good quality 24" 'plant-gro' bulbs, replace the 29g with a 20 long, and start from there. That way you'll at least have 2wpg of 'good' light that's actually being directed downward toward the plants.

Good luck, don't get frustrated, and have fun.
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