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Salt killing MTS?

I have a serious outbreak of ich in my tank right now, I started treating wednesday following Diana's guidelines (1tsp of salt per 5 gallons added each day for three days) so far I have added 2tbsp of salt over the last 2 days for a 20l. Ive lost 2 fish, but I have also lost about 6 MTS. They were lying on the substrate emerged from their shells, could the salt have done this? Im adding the salt super slowly (dissolving in tank water and adding over about 10 hours). I cant figure out what the heck happened to them, water parameters are fine, salt was added slowly and I just started heating the tank up yesterday (had to buy a heater), I didnt even raise it yesterday, just added the heater, I finally upped the temp by a degree this morning when I found the dead snails.
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I don't have experience with MTS care, but I know that a smallest bit of salt added kill the pond snails in my aquarium like magic. They just fizzle away and only empty shells left in a couple hours.

Looking at the situation, I think the salt is the sole reason for the MTS deaths.

I also found another forum discussing the topic that should be helpful: http://www.fishlore.com/fishforum/sn...rium-salt.html
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Thanks, I did read other people not having issues with their snails and salt. This is just so frustrating, I feel terrible when anything in my tanks die and I'm really fond of the snails!

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I think there was another member who had MTS living in a tank with opae ula shrimp in water with salt in it. Not sure how much salt he had in his tank. https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=161194

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now i cant decide if I should add the last tbsp of salt... argh
thanks for the link
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MTS are thriving in my brackish water tank. I use the salt and minerals blend for salt water tanks, and the specific gravity is 1.004, pretty low level for brackish water.
TDS is between 2000-3000.
I use about 1/4 cup (rounded, actually) per 4 gallons of water. I know that is not all salt, but if it was... you might say it is over 1 tablespoon per gallon.
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Thanks, I did read other people not having issues with their snails and salt. This is just so frustrating, I feel terrible when anything in my tanks die and I'm really fond of the snails!

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Aw Starr!

If you were Stateside I would RAOK you some of mine!
Thanks! I just feel bad for the little guys!

Diana that is good to know, in your opinion do you think I should go ahead and add the last bit of salt, technically I am on day three of your ich regime but haven't started adding the last of the salt.

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You want to keep them alive? Just kidding. I'm always trying to find ways to kill my MTS. For what it's worth they're thriving in my brackish tank too. I thought they couldn't take salt because the brackish tank was the only one not infested. but they're in there too now. I've tried to kill them with both aquarium salt and marine aquarium salt. They close up, fall, and look dead. If you put them back in fresh water they spring back to life. It's weird that yours are out of their shells rather than closed up.

I know my perspective isn't the same as yours but I don't think the small amount of salt you added killed them. I don't know, maybe they were affected by the ick?

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Thanks, I didn't think snails could get ich, I wonder though, since besides getting a new tank, nothing has changed but the ich and salt.

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Thanks, I didn't think snails could get ich, I wonder though, since besides getting a new tank, nothing has changed but the ich and salt.

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I have no idea. I just know these things are seriously hard to kill. I've tried starving them in a fishless
well maintained tank for months on end. Nothing works. Good luck. I hope you get it figured out.

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my local lfs uses MTS in his MARINE sump to stir his sandbed so doubt salt will be killing them, he just took them from a freshy tank and threw them in !!!! 80% lived even with that treatment!!! make of that what you will
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I have no idea. I just know these things are seriously hard to kill. I've tried starving them in a fishless
well maintained tank for months on end. Nothing works. Good luck. I hope you get it figured out.
Thank you, ironic isn't it that I'm not trying to kill them and they are dying :S

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my local lfs uses MTS in his MARINE sump to stir his sandbed so doubt salt will be killing them, he just took them from a freshy tank and threw them in !!!! 80% lived even with that treatment!!! make of that what you will
Argh I wonder what the issue is than, I can't find much since most people are trying to kill them lol

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If they are what I have, salt will not kill them. I'm running on the seventh week of trying to get rid of them in a 55 with no fish but just a few plants that are left over. I don't want to move the plants and risk having MTS in even more tanks. I've been adding pickling salt using a cup to put it in a gallon jug and then pouring it in. Over the last 7 weeks I've added three cups, more or less to 55 and changed no water. They are still all over the place. I was told they only spread when you overfeed but that is unlikely as I have not fed in 7 weeks! I can't see feeding any less and keeping any fish happy.
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