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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 08-31-2012, 03:04 PM Thread Starter
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So I was getting tired of the way my tank looked so I pulled all the plants out and then moved the fish to my q tank, gave everything good cleaning.

Now one of the LFS is going out of business, and they had some crazy deals on plants. I think I am going to keep things simple with this re-do

I got the following; 3 giant amazon mother plants for 8 dollars total. Anubias, Barteri Broad Leaf monster, this this is huge, 6 bucks, and Java Fern Mat, I think it 4x4. What do I do with that, do I break it apart or just plant it while it on the mat? It was 3 bucks.

My Tank is 125g with sump & dual overflows, C02.

I have the aquascape the way I want it, but willing to move things a round if it will make the new plants fit.

So here what I am thinking
1 Giant mother plant on each side of the tank in front of the overflow
1 Giant mother plant in the middle (it won't be exact middle) to the left of the large drift wood.

Where to put the Anubias monster? Maybe it would look cool in the front somewhere? I know should not put something this large in the front, but maybe it would look cool in front of the drift wood on the right, kinda where it dips back in.

What about the Java fern?

Here what I had in the tank before.

Sagittaria - Dwarf (I would guess I have 200 of these)
Sagittaria - non Dwarf (I would guess I have 30 of these)
Tiger Lotus - Green (have one of these)
TIger Lotus - Red (have one of these)
Micro Swords - have at least enough for 1 or 2 rows all the way across the front it I wanted.
Water Sprite (don't care if I keep this or not)
Vals - Italian, Jungle, Cork Screw (I would guess I have 150 of these)
Klenier Bar (1 of these)

Also have ton of small compact swords. I am sure I missed few things as well. Let me know what you think.
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I like to DW and the idea of the mother plants on the sides. However have you thought about stem plants? I love stem plants in a large aquarium. It makes the tank that much bigger. I feel with large swords and such, it makes the tank that much smaller. Just my 2 cents. I'm not the one who has to look at it everyday. Keep it up!

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Jim - I really like the HardScape!

If you turned me lose on what you have I would treat it as two "Islands".

Put 2 Swords on either side/behind of the Driftwood on the right. I'd plant a bit tight in close so the leaves grow into the Driftwood.

Put the other sword in the left corner behind the Driftwood BASICALLY REPEATING THE RIGHT SIDE AS MIGHT HAPPEN IN NATURE

The Anubias, Barteri Broad Leaf Monster, O.K. Sit down for this, I'd break it up and attach 2/3s of the plant to driftwood on the right, 1/3rd to the driftwood on the right. I'd Super glue gel it to the lower areas so it would eventual grow up the drift wood.

I would put the Java on SNS and as Trade for Dwarf Sag I would plant that around each Island leaving an open area in the front left and middle rear.
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On the Dwarf Sag. (had to take a 2nd look at the hardscape)

Left front open, Middle back open.

Plant front right hand side, middle front , and some directly in front of the left side rocks like they are taking root at the base.

I think that will create a lot of interest about the open space middle back, drawing the viewers attention into the tank. It will also create more depth.

Wow, I like that so much I want to buy a big tank and do that for myself.



Best of luck what ever you decide. Looking forward to see where you go with this.
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If you still have the Klenier Bar I'd put that on the right back of the left hand Island, the new sword in the left corner of the left Island.

That would really draw the viewer deep into the tank.

You'll end up with only three plant sp. if you look at the award winning tank they seldom have more that 3 or 4 plant sp.
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Can I just come over and Scape this for you?

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Can I just come over and Scape this for you?


ha ha, sure come on over. Thank you for the advise. I think I like that idea, but are you saying I should not worry about trying to hide the 2 over flows?

hmmm so many things to think about now...

I don't want to get rid of the microsword though, as it cost me a ton and I have so much of it. My options with that are to have it go across the front or use that instead of the dwarf sag.

hmmmm what to do. :-)
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Sure swap the Micro Sword for the Sag. I kinda misunderstood that you had all the plants still from the prior scape.

Those swords are so big eventually they should block out the over flows. Of course you adjust a little in the planting for you viewing angle.


I know it's hard to limit the sp. of plants, I'm struggling with that myself, In my display tank I have regular Java, Taiwan Moss, C. Becketti and C. Nuri. I did slip in one Bucephalandra that I really didn't have anywhere else to put it.

That come out and will be going in my Desk Nano next month.

I will say by keeping it limited it is one of the nicest Scapes I've ever done.

Fish are 1 sm. SAE, 5 Cherry Barbs (3M2F) and 10 Amano shrimp and 5 of my Red/Gold Ramshorns. There are MTS(snails) but they seldom are out in daylight.

There's enough activity to keep it investing without it looking like Union Station at rush hour.
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Sounds cool. Was thinking one of these days about nano, but this tank keeps me busy enough as it is.

Yeah this tank been setup for a while, just was time for a re-do and the fact I picked up some new plants for so cheap made it great time to do it.

Also the plants listed are below I have in holding tank that were in the 125.

Sagittaria - Dwarf (I would guess I have 200 of these)
Sagittaria - non Dwarf (I would guess I have 30 of these)
Tiger Lotus - Green (have one of these)
TIger Lotus - Red (have one of these)
Micro Swords - have at least enough for 1 or 2 rows all the way across the front it I wanted.
Water Sprite (don't care if I keep this or not)
Vals - Italian, Jungle, Cork Screw (I would guess I have 150 of these)
Klenier Bar (1 of these)
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I do have another question, I assume as long as the substrate has water on it still, which it does, and I keep spraying the plants they should be OK for several hours well I work on the scape?
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Yep just keep them moist, I use a $1 store spray bottle.

BTW -I have a baby Klenier Bar real neat plant.It's outside in my Whiskey Barrel pond. It's Fire Engine Red....Love that one

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I'd push those rocks into the substrate a bit. It'll look more natural instead of them being plotted on there.


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I'd push those rocks into the substrate a bit. It'll look more natural instead of them being plotted on there.
Good idea, i will do that

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Any other ideas before i start today?

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To complement Mr. Green's comment. In nature underwater Islands result from water currents. washing away sand from around rocks were driftwood has collected in the rubble. So yes, the rocks would be in the sand and the sand would gentle slope away from the rocks.

To keep the height of the Islands don't push the rocks down, sweep some substrate sand up to the edges of the rocks or if you have more substrate add it around the rocks for that effect.
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