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Floaters are melting, why?

I got some red root floater from an RAOK and they started to melt day by day. Everyday I see less and less in my tank. Why are they melting?

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Tank ph is about 5.8-6.0
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temp 75-77F dude to hot weather in Ca (outside temp high 90's to low 100's)
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I have other plants in tank that do no melt. I have fissiden, subwassertang, DHG, and micro sword. They all do fine


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How much surface agitation do you have? I've always thought red root floaters as the more sensitive floaters which probably wouldn't do so well with surface agitation from your filter.


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How high are your lights? I had to raise my lights about 5 inches because they were too low.
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How much surface agitation do you have? I've always thought red root floaters as the more sensitive floaters which probably wouldn't do so well with surface agitation from your filter.


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Very little agitation, I have a Aqueon 06080 QuietFlow 10 (100gph) in a 9g tank. IMOP that is low agitation.

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How high are your lights? I had to raise my lights about 5 inches because they were too low.
My light is right above the tank. The stand is sitting on the rim of tank. You think the light is too strong and its killing it?


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Oh yeah forgot to mention I dipped floaters in a bucket of excel for about 5 mins before putting in my tank. The ratio is 10ml in about 1/5 gallon water.


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Oh yeah forgot to mention I dipped floaters in a bucket of excel for about 5 mins before putting in my tank. The ratio is 10ml in about 1/5 gallon water.
Why?

What kind of lighting do you have?


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Why?

What kind of lighting do you have?


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When did you get them? They might bounce back if it's just shipping stress.

Otherwise it might be nutrients, your water column probably has close to zip with root feeders and other epiphytic competition. The RRF I have that are the reddest and largest are in stagnant water puddles with dirt.

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There shouldn't be much algae on floaters I'd say. I don't have any evidence supporting this but that's what I think.


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To remove algae, it might be more gentle on the plants to use H2O2 or Excel than bleach.

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RRF are the most sensative floaters ive had growing in my tanks. They will turn red under bright light or have stagnant growth with insufficient lighting. They dont do well tumbling or submerged. If you treated it with chemicals, they will likely not bounce back very well in comparison to frogbit, water lettuce with a stronger cell structure.


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When did you get them? They might bounce back if it's just shipping stress.

Otherwise it might be nutrients, your water column probably has close to zip with root feeders and other epiphytic competition. The RRF I have that are the reddest and largest are in stagnant water puddles with dirt.
I got them locally. The guy was about 20 mins away from me. Since they are floaters I think he probably pulled it out of the tank then day we meet up. If he pulled it out of the tank when he posted the RAOK it was 2 days.

I think its the agitation and maybe the excel dip. Agitation is probably due to the fan. Since its to so damn hot in Ca (low 100'sF) I have the fan on 24/7 and it moves the floater around the whole tank. Movement is not fast but it does get to go around the tank.


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Yeah I think the Excel denatured the already stressed root water/nutrient interface after too much time emersed.
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