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Other plants for DSM

Hi. I would like to know if there are other plants that you could use DSM on. I've seen people do DSM on HC, dwarf hairgrass and moss. Has anybody tried DSM on other plant species? Thanks!
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Crypts are very popular paludarium plants. Most of the stem plants in the trade grow emergent.. same goes for most swords afaik..
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Hi Perryboat,

Any aquatic or semi-aquatic plant that can be grown emersed can be used setting up a DSM tank.

Currently I am growing the following plants in my emersed set-up.
Anubias minima
Anubias barteri var. nana 'Petite'
Bacopa salzmannii
Ceratopteris cornuta
Cryptocoryne parva
Cryptocoryne nurii
Cryptocoryne wendtii 'Bronze'
Cryptocoryne wendtii 'Florida Sunset'
Cryptocoryne wendtii 'Red'
Cryptocoryne usterianna x walkeri
Eriocaulon parkeri
Eleocharis sp. (tall)
Eleocharis sp. 'Belem'
Hemianthus callitrichoides
Hemianthus callitrichoides 'Cuba'
Helanthium tenellum
Hydrocotyle sp 'Japan'
Hygrophila lancea
Hygrophila pinnatifida
Hygrophila polysperma 'Sunset'
Hygrophila polysperma 'Tiger'
Hygrophila polysperma 'Sunset'
Lindernia rotundifolia 'Variegated'
Ludwigia brevipes x arcuata
Ludwigia glandulosa
Ludwigia sp. 'Red'
Marsilea minuta
Penthorum sedoides
Pogostemon erectus
Pogostemon helferi
Ranunculus inundatus
Riccia fluitans
Staurogyne repens

lol...so many plants so little time!

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Thanks for the info. Reason I asked was because i recently started an HC dsm, i dont have a spare tank so the rest of my plants are in a bucket and im afraid they will die soon. Good to know that i can plant them emersed as well... What kind of bottles are those? How'd you fit pots in there!?
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Hi Perryboat,

Taking plants from submerged growth to emersed growth can be very tricky; maintain a very high humidity level; don't let the tank get too hot from the light.

Here is a thread on my emersed set-up and here is how I make the 'Peptent' humidomes.

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i was pondering this myself the other day, im planning on starting a plant bank here pretty soon and wanted to know what i could include in it.... is humidity a huge factor in emersed plants? i have always kept my DSM humid as its easier to switch to submerged and its easier to switch submerged to emerged with lots of humidity but if im just doing emersed setup as long as i have water through out the containers will i be ok?


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Hi wetbizquit,

You are correct on all counts. High humidity environments helps the transition from submerged to emersed (less transpiration and plant stress) and from emersed to submerged (by maintaining a thin leaf cuticle layer).

I do grow some plants in lower humidity containers where the transition isn't as difficult.




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thats awesome, you seem to have quite the knowledge on this topic, so maybe you could answer me this...

a member on here i have been chatting with, bahugo, sp lol has shared this thread with me, its the method he uses to grow his emersed setup
http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...t-emersed.html
but i was wondering, it says you dont need to do maintanence for 2-3 months and i was wondering if i should be misting every other day, or at least weakly just to keep it a little humid? or will it remain humid on its own with the amount of water already in there?


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Hi wetbizquit,

I don't want to hijack this thread but I can't answer your question. The 'Peptent' humidomes don't require any misting; I change (or clean) the containers once a month and water every two weeks.

The containers in the pictures above do not require misting, the water in the container with a loose lid on top maintains a good humidity although lower than the 'Peptents'.

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thank you good sir, and sorry for the hi jacking of this thread perry! this is just a great topic, well emersed setups are a great topic i mean


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lol. No worries cuz im actually learning too! Thanks for all the info you're sharing Seattle_Aquarist.
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Hi Perryboat and wetbizquit,

It's my pleasure, that is what this forum is all about...the exchange of ideas and sharing knowledge.

Here is a (poor quality) picture of my 10 gallon that I set up a week ago, no special substrate just inert clay, no CO2, and the fertilizer is Seachem Flourish Comprehensive 2X per week and Excel. It is not aquascaped; this is just an experiment.

There are five plant species in this picture from left to right Pogostemon erectus, Ludwigia sp. 'Red', Hygrophila polysperma 'Tiger', Bacopa salzmannii, and Nymphoides sp. 'Taiwan'. Four of the plant species were grown emersed and planted straight from the 'Peptent' to the tank, one species was grown submerged. Quick quiz question......which one was grown submerged?

Quiz question: Which plant species was grown submerged?

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I'm only guessing but I think the Bacopa is the one grown submerged. Do i get a prize if i get it right!?
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