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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 07-22-2012, 01:35 PM Thread Starter
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Cloudy 40 gallon start

So I gave up on the idea of trying the DSM in my 40 gallon breeder with MTS covered with Estes black gravel after nearly all of my purchased plants turned brown or white. I removed all the plants I could, let the gravel / substrate dry out a few days while thinking I might try again then decided to fill the tank instead and proceed the usual way. The tank has a large piece of mopani wood that was previously soaked for months and some slate pieces and 2 slate caves.
I filled the tank very very carefully so that there was very little disturbance and wound up with only small pieces I cleaned out with a small net and a slight film on top. I used a combination of conditioned tap water (Tetra Aqua Safe Plus) and water from my other running planted aquariums. I also added a large Aqueon Power filter with bio-rings from one of my planted tanks to seed this new set up, a brand new Aqueon carbon packet and floss.
The water has been cloudy for a couple of days and I have just let it run with only the large filter running, no lights and no heater as there are no plants or fish in it.
If I continue to do this should it clear up on its own or should I add the lights and a heater - I am in no hurry to complete this tank so if allowing it to clear on its own is best I am certainly willing to do that. It has been a while since I have seen this new tank syndrome cloudiness so I was just seeking advice - thanks to all responders
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I would think it should clear up with the filter running eventually. If it's brown water then it's likely from the DW even if it's been soaked before; carbon in the filter might help that or more water changes. If it's more cloudy then it might be from the substrate; sand usually causes more cloudiness than gravel but I guess it's possible, I'm not familiar with the Estes brand. Just FYI, if you don't add an ammonia source soon (either fish or pure ammonia) to feed the bacteria on your seeded media then the bacteria are going to start to die off.

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Ditto: Add ammonia, get the fishless cycle going!
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Cloudy 40 gal

Thanks to librarygirl and Diana for your advice and info.
I finally scooped up some of the water from my cloudy 40 gal tank in a white plastic cup and both my wife and I agreed that the color of the water is closest to beige. I have got to believe that it is a combination of the last tannins from the mopani wood (hard to believe with the length of the soak) and perhaps some of the mineralizd soil mixed in as well as a bacteria bloom due to the seeding.
I am in the process of having the light for that tank worked on but I think that tomorrow I will place the heater and a couple of zebra danios as well as a platty into the 40 gal to help with the ammonia / bacteria / cycling. If the cloudiness continues I will do some water changes also. Thanks again to you both.
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Hey librarygirl and Diana,

I feel so foolish but I think I found my cloudiness problem I am just waiting to see if I am right. In my thinking that bigger is better I mounted a large Aqueon power filter on my 40 gal not realizing that the intake was longer so consequently the intake was into the gravel and the soil. I switched out to a smaller Aqueon filter, did a 40% water change added the heater and I will see but I believe this was the problem after all. Thanks again.
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