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Zacheyp's no gallon long cichlid build

Ok guys so im venturing from the world of saltwater to the world of cichlids. I will be using a standard 20 gallon long tank and incondesent hood, a tetra 30 whisper filter and a standard tetra heater. My questions are this--
How should i stock?
What substrate should i use?
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you salties seems so scared of fresh water..

where I live, the waters hard as rocks... so, if i change enough regularly, the buffers from the city water keep the ph high and friendly for the africans.

other options include crushed coral substrate, crushed coral in the filter baking soda, ph^ and some other buffers and salts..

hows your water?
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my water is soft...
also what fish should i keep?
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With soft water you can keep almost any fish in the aquarium trade from South America and Southeast Asia. If you are looking for cichlids you could keep angelfish, apistos, severums, etc. There are many South American cichlids that prefer soft water. You could also keep tetras, rasboras, and other small schooling fish.

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If i change my water to make it hard what cichlids could i keep?
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African cichlids mainly; they prefer hard water. Though a 20G is kind of small for a lot of cichlids.
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Plenty of rock work should help get water parameters you seek.. plus cichlids love rock tunnels and barriers and such plus its probably best since it can help with their aggression towards eachother
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you salties seems so scared of fresh water..

where I live, the waters hard as rocks... so, if i change enough regularly, the buffers from the city water keep the ph high and friendly for the africans.

other options include crushed coral substrate, crushed coral in the filter baking soda, ph^ and some other buffers and salts..

hows your water?

this freshie is kinda afraid of saltwater lol. I'd be afraid I'd mess up on the salt mixture on water change day and kill everything lol

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is 20 g too small for cichlids
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For Africans yes. Shell dwellers you could do though but that's it. A pair of rams would be fine.
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You may be in for a tough go when sorting what to stock in cichlids as there are so many and they fall all across the range in what they prefer. For a smaller tank, I might stick to some of the tang cichlids as they are often small. For a small Malawi, i might look at the little "brother" of the famous yellow lab. Labidochromis chisumulae were fine for me when I was breeding them in 29 gallons. Herotilapia multispinosa (rainbow cichlid) is great for a smmall tolerant south or Central American. They can do well in small tanks.
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So does 5-6 cichlids in a 20 sound good?
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So does 5-6 cichlids in a 20 sound good?
no.
too many cichlids, not enough room.
maybe 5-6 shell-dwellers would fit in a 20 L but i doubt it.
as far as cichlids go, in a 20 L you could keep:
a pair of rams
OR
a pair of apistos
OR
a pair of kribs
OR
some shell-dwellers (i know nothing about them so idk how many)
and that's really it.

20 L really limits your selection for cichlids, why are you so set on them? you could keep a good number of small schooling fish in a 20 L easily.
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