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Anyone ever made Seachem Flourite Plant Substrate pillows/pouches?

Ever since I switched from flourite substrate to sand, my plants have not been what they once were. I also am adding plants to my cichlid tank that has sand substrate. Has anyone ever made small, maybe 4x4" pillows stuffed with flourite so the plants have something to hold on to and get nutrients from that could be just tucked under the sand?

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Sounds like an idea that would do some good things but I might see some problems as well.
I have sand and I would like to keep it looking nice and clean without the Flourite scattered around. A pillow would do that for a time.

But then I find that most fabric breaks down pretty quickly. I use nylon wedding veil for various things like DIY nets and dividers and even though it is nylon, it requires replacement. I've not done it but I think the pillow will break open and be scattered around as the fish dig.
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sand has a horrible CEC. it cannot hold onto nutrients at all
flourite has no available nutrients in it.
so flourite onl works because it can store nutrients that are put into the ank, whether is frm feeding or tap water. plus its larger grain sizes allow more water movement


i'd try laying flourite down as a base if that's what u want, and then cover it with window screening. it will still have some sand go down into it, but it won't come up and wont mix with the sand

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Or you know.. just use root tabs.
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I have been using nylon sacks for years.
I use organic nutrient rich products instead of Flourite, it's not for everybody.
Layer the nylon over as many times as you can and it helps keep the contents in the sack.
I seal the sack gently with a black zip tie and I put a few short airline hoses around the plant base to space the seal a little better. Most often those airlines are removed or trimmed immediately after tieing the bag.
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I would just use root tabs, but I'm getting a bunch of jungle Val for my cichlid tank, I had a rank full of it but when I switched to sand it all died dispite adding root tabs. I figured using some sort of pouch would give something for it to grab on and the cichlids would not be able to dig it up making an ugly mess of sand and fluorite.

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Root tabs are great for adding a little nutrients to the root that actually touches the tab, but what about the others? Starved little roots.

I prefer to surround all of the roots with a healthy growing medium.

Whatever works for ya.
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