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Plants melting in new 40 gallon tank..

I have set up new 40 gallon tank,
ADA amazonia, Co2 Injection and 2x55W CF .

Any new plants that I put in trend to melt away.. I am not sure what all parameters to check..
I had ordered mat of HC all those gone.. bunch of other crypts all of them are melted away..

What should be I checking that can cause this.. the only thing that i saw high was amonia.. but I did 80% water change twice and does not seem to help..

any help is greatly appreciated
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I have never had crypts but have read multiple times that crypts tend to melt when placed in new tanks but will come back.

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How long has your tank been set up? How high was the ammonia? How tall is the tank, and exactly what light fixture do you have? I don't know much about HC, but crypts can melt pretty easily, but they often come back. Are there any other perameter readings you can share?

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My tank is just 2 weeks old..
Nitrate 0
Nitrite .5ppm
GH ppm 300
Total Chlorne .25
KH PPM 140
PH 6.2
Amonia 4.0

Also I do 60% water change every 3 days but still there is a distinct stink in water. like old water. I have 2 55W bulbs running.

Any help is much appreciated
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Do you have fish in that?

Did you maybe think your plants may have been adjusting and you threw them out too soon maybe?

Because you said you only had the tank going for 2 weeks, I think the plants might need more time to adjust. Also, if you don't have any fish in there (which I hope) then stop doing water changes and once your cycle completes the smell should go away.

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I waited until my tank cycled before I added plants. I don't know if amonia will cause plants to die.

That said, not knowing the answer to the question above, we need more information. What type of lighting (T5, CF, MH) do you have and the photoperiod?

What type of substrate?
What type of plants?
CO2?

If there is anything I learned its patience, patience, patience. I had plants that I thought were dead - several weeks later they started growing like a weed.

I've had plants that others said were easy to grow, die no matter what I did.

I've grown plants that were said to difficult without a problem..

So, patience.... and what works for others may not work for you. Go slow, make suttle changes, see what happens, make a nother suttle adjustment, etc....

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Plants will melt, and a lot of it has to do with transplant shock. Your water parameters are probably just vastly different in all aspects from where the plants came from. It's important to pick some hardy, fast growing plants that will soak up any excess nutrients when the tank is establishing. Try an amazon sword. I've had stem plants totally melt within a day and never recover. It happens. However, don't give up on crypts. I've had one literally melt to the roots. No visible stems or leaves. And it grew back. A good test is the moosh test as I call it. If stems still have structure, ie they aren't total mush, then leave them!
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Thx all, Currently there are no fish in the tank..2 55W cf lights.CO2 injection, actually i am mixing CO2 using CO2 reactor, Injecting CO2 at the rate of 3 bubbles per second.
Substrate is Auqasoil Amazonia 2. with powersoil as bottom layer.

Yes some plants I see are coming back but most of them are melting away.. I had put in HC, which alomost all of it is gone..I might just remove rotten HC from the tank.I do see some green HC in the entire carpet but most of it is all black.. the only major concern I think something is wrong because my xMAS MOss seems to be dying.. well most of it turned brown.. but I still have hope .

I will give it another couple of weeks to see if any changes. Also do the parameter above look rite to you folks?
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What is your Lighting period?

How tall is your tank?

How thick is the substrate?

Filtration/water movement?
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Perhaps some of the plants you put in there were grown emersed? I put some glosso in my tank that was grown emersed, and it just completely melted away after about 2 weeks. About a week after that, little shoots started popping up through the substrate and it starting growing fine.
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My tank is 36x18x18 but I fill it up to 15 inch's.. Substrate is 4 inch atleast.
Since the water in my tank looked 2 dirty, I put in 2 filters, fulval 206 and other one is some non branded one that supports for 100 g tank.. I think I see that the plants are not actually dead.. like all of the experts above said.. they are starting to get back..

Well I will wait and watch.. hopefully my HC mats do come back that is what I am more worried about..
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