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Co2 reactor/diffuser?

Ok so heres a repetative question, what you guys think is the best co2 diffuser/reactor?? I know I will get a lot of opinions about this but I was thinking about getting a co2 setup from GLA later in the year for a new 75 gal setup Im planning and I want to get a good diffuser or reactor so any thoughts? (dont care if its inline or whatever just needs to be the best)


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Personally I would go with one of GLA's inline CO2 atomizers.
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Are they really that good? Ive heard a lot about them recently but I wasnt sure


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Hi kribkeeper,

I too will be setting up a 75 gallon in the near future and have been planning my equipment. I will be running a Magnum 350 filter (or possibly a larger Marineland canister) in conjunction with a Danner Supreme Mag-Drive 9.5 for extra circulation with split inputs and outputs as a closed system. For heaters there will be two Hydor ETH 300 in-line heaters.

For a substrate I currently use Soilmaster Select Charcoal and Turface Pro League Grey, both high CEC Montmorillonite clay products but they have been discontinued. I picked up a couple of 40 lb. bags of Moltan 7941 Safe T Sorb which I will be trying out shortly on a 20 gallons. Here is a thread about it and how it looks.


I currently use Boyu CD-01 () inline diffusers for my 30 gallon and my 45 gallon but I think I will do a DIY Cerges' reactor similar to the AquariumPlants.com reactor.

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I have used many diffusers and yes, the GLA atomics are the best I have seen. Microscopic bubbles even when they are filthy and a built in check valve. The customer service at GLA is absolutely phenomenal also.

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Hi kribkeeper,

I too will be setting up a 75 gallon in the near future and have been planning my equipment. I will be running a Magnum 350 filter (or possibly a larger Marineland canister) in conjunction with a Danner Supreme Mag-Drive 9.5 for extra circulation with split inputs and outputs as a closed system. For heaters there will be two Hydor ETH 300 in-line heaters.

For a substrate I currently use Soilmaster Select Charcoal and Turface Pro League Grey, both high CEC Montmorillonite clay products but they have been discontinued. I picked up a couple of 40 lb. bags of Moltan 7941 Safe T Sorb which I will be trying out shortly on a 20 gallons. Here is a thread about it and how it looks.


I currently use Boyu CD-01 () inline diffusers for my 30 gallon and my 45 gallon but I think I will do a DIY Cerges' reactor similar to the AquariumPlants.com reactor.

Boyu CD-01



Sounds good, as for myself I Am going to run my current fluval 305 along with a large ehiem canister and it now sounds like with an atomic inline diffuser from GLA. As for heating I really dont have any clue and will have to look into it a little more. This really will be my first serious setup so I hope things work since I dont have much experiance in the hightec end of plantkeeping. I think Im going to get the choice co2 setup from GLA since ive heard its very good. And as far as substrate im going to invest a small fortune into 5 bags of ADA amazonia.


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Hi kribkeeper,

I don't know if there is any 'perfect' set-up; we all have our own equipment preferences and budgets and try to work within those constraints. I prefer an 'uncluttered look' in an aquarium so I have been working diligently to remove the pieces of operational equipment from my tanks and get them out of sight that is why I am moving toward the Hydor heaters and the in-line reactor. I don't dislike the little bubbles in my aquariums created by a diffuser (like the Boyu or GLA) but with the reactor those go away as well.

I forgot to mention lighting. My 75 gallon has a canopy so I am going to use something I really like and have used for years, AH Supply (AHS) kits with their excellent MIRO 4 reflectors. These reflectors efficiently direct the lamp output into my aquariums (including my 24" deep tank) with excellent dispersion. Hoppy showed the effectiveness of AHS kits/reflectors verses standard PC/CFL fixtures in his insightful analysis here. I currently use AHS CFL kits in various lengths for my aquariums but for the 75 gallon I will be using their 48" T5HO 54 watt kits; two for the main lighting and possibly a third for a 'noon burst'.

Here is my 30 gallon with an AHS 2x36 watt CFL kit

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Sounds good, I dont have any currant pics ofmy setups right now but I will be useing T5HO Lighting setup I already have, but im useing a lower output, around 24w bulbs that do put out less light and I will be useing 4 bulbs. I have also been thinking of the hydor inline because like you, im not a cluttered look person lol I have been looking to find a set of lily pipes for my filter because im not a fan of fluvals black and ehiems green intakes-outputs but i havent been able to find any for less then 80$ Im not entirely thrilled with paying that much haha. Also Since this wll be my first time doseing dry ferts I am wondering what I should get ?? I plan on ordering from GLA for the ferts so what would be a complete doseing system? Im running on well water with a 7.4 ph and 8gh I think.


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Hi kribkeeper888,

One of our LFS sells KNO3 and KH2PO4 and I pick those up locally. I have used aquariumfertilizer.com with good success; excellent products, packaging, and service. Some issues have been raised about GLA's KNO3 in the past.

I dose KNO3 and KH2PO4 for Macros and Flourish Comprehensive, CSM+B, and chelated Iron as Micros. Since our water is really soft here <1.0 dKH / 4.0 dGH I add Seachem Equilibrium for Ca and Mg and a few other micros; you probably would not need Equilibrium.

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I currently does seachem flourish comprehensive along with flourish trace and API leaf zone for chelated iron. And I noticed you mentioned with a co2 diffuser you get micro bubbles and with a reactor you dont. Is that implying that the reactor diffuses 100% of the co2 into the water rather then the diffuser which chops up the co2 into micro bubbles?? Doesnt that make the reactor more efficient then a diffuser then? To go back to my origional question.


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Hi kribkeeper888,

Yes, a good reactor that dissolves 100% of the CO2 is more efficient than a diffuser, however a good reactor is typically (but not always) external to the aquarium and will take up more space than a diffuser. I have seen the internal reactor I linked to and it good except leaves and debris can clog the input.

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Do you have any examples of a "Good" reactor? How about aquariumplants.com's reactor?


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Hi kribkeeper888,

I do not have any personal experience with that reactor, but that is the DIY one I am building is going to emulate that unit. Maybe another TPT member who has used or is using the aquariumplants.com unit can speak up?

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Anyone have any clue on the aquarium plants.com or any other reactors?


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