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New Tank set up questions

Hi all,

I set up this high planted tank about 3 weeks now and have couple questions. Hopefully someone can clear it for me.

- ADA 60P
- 1yr Old/used AS soil.
- 5lbs co2 tank with Milwauke regulator with inline diffuser and ph controller (set it at 6.1ph, tds 100-225). someone told me it's good to inject co2 constantly then using ph controller which will limit plants growth.
- 65 PC light on 8-10 hrs per day with couple hours break in between.
- 2215 eheim filter + ac 50 hob filter.
- Dry fert using EI calculation
KNO3 - mix 34.719g with 250ml distilled water - dose 5ml M,W,F
KH2PO4 - mix 5.288g with 250ml distilled water - dose 5ml M,W,F
K2SO4 - mix 47.451g with 250ml distilled water - dose 5ml M,W,F
Miller's MicroPlex - mix 35.488g with 250ml distilled water - dose 5 ml Tue,Thurs,Sat
50% WC on Sunday nothing else.
- NO FISH - JUST PLANTED TANK.



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- question 1: is it ok to use PH controller or not or just dose 1 bubble 4 sec? and what is the negative of using ph controller?

- question 2: there are snails in the tank and wil over dose co2 kill them? i also heard you can use copper or salt to kill them?

Any suggestion would be appreciated.

Thank you,

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copper or salt at levels to kill snails will hurt plants (imo)
once copper is used I don't think you can ever keep shrimp alive in the tank.

I've recommended Flubendazole fish wormer as it kills snails too.

I have American Marine Controllers (3 active, 1 spare) using them 24/7,,, like having them.


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thank you wkndracer for quick respond. I don't think i'll keep any shrimp in this tank but in case i change my mind and can't get Flubendazole in USA from what i heard, so will use salt instead. By any chance, do you know how much will be enough?





ps: want to add to my co2 question - someone told me it's good to inject co2 constantly and ph controller will limit plants growth.
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thank you wkndracer for quick respond. I don't think i'll keep any shrimp in this tank but in case i change my mind and can't get Flubendazole in USA from what i heard, so will use salt instead. By any chance, do you know how much will be enough?





ps: want to add to my co2 question - someone told me it's good to inject co2 constantly and ph controller will limit plants growth.
Just set it up with a solenoid/time to start 1 hour before your light clicks on and 1 hour before it clicks off.

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Hahaha I don't see how use of a controller would limit plant growth or waste CO2

Flu can be ordered from plymouth discus and imported without issues.
http://wormerplus.co.uk/

I buy mine from Doc (PhD) Charles Harrison right here in the U.S.
http://www.inkmkr.com/Fish/


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pH controllers still end up needing a drop checker since a drop in pH corresponds to a varying amount of CO2 depending on the buffering capacity of the water.
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won't the ph controller say set at 6.1 when it reaches 6.1 during the day stops the co2 from getting injected when the plants need it? not talkin bout night at all where plants dont need it
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won't the ph controller say set at 6.1 when it reaches 6.1 during the day stops the co2 from getting injected when the plants need it? not talkin bout night at all where plants dont need it
Properly setup these controllers maintain span around a setpoint.

'say set at 6.1' gives you 35-40ppm or a nice yellow / green drop checker it will hold the pH reading at that range and switch pwr back on to drive more gas as it's used to maintain set point. A few plants or a huge mass, smooth surface or waterfall like turbulence. If the flow rate of the needle valve and diffusion method can achieve set point value the controller is designed to do just this function,,, maintain set point. HTH


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My drop checker stays green most the time and have not seen nice yellow or red yet. so far so good and lead more question.


i saw it injected a lot of co2 at once to maintain set point. so is it good ?
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I think its better to keep co2 constant and off at night and you can do without the controller, but lets here what the more experienced have to say...
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