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Canister disaster

I got an email message from my wife telling me that my youngest son pulled the hose off of my intake tube of my ecco pro 2236, and that an alarm was going off. (I have a water detector alarm in my cabinet for just such an event. Well, she was able to reconnect the hose, but didn't know how to turn off the alarm. The alarm masked the sound of my ecco 2236 impeller rattling away. By the time I got home, the filter was dead silent and HOT! I found the impeller shattered inside the unit.

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Do you think the canister will still work, by merely replacing the impeller?

How long can I keep the tank without a filter (55 gallon with a Hydor Koralia 425 for surface movement). I shut down the CO2 and cut back on the photoperiod to keep algae at bay. I think it will take at least a week to order a replacement.

Is there anywhere in the Chicagoland area that carries Eheim canisters.... I am thinking of going with a classic 2217 for greater flow.

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I by no means an expert, but I think you could probably make it a week. I would add some air stones in the mean time and maybe even a small powerhead if you have one hanging around, for circulation ...I love my 2217 btw.
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I have an Aquatop (CF400UV 4-Stage Canister Filter with UV 9W - 370 gph) and I'm very happy with it's performance - powerful, easy to maintain, very quiet, and you cannot beat the price - $90 shipped!
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I wouldn't give up on the filter yet. A new impeller might be all that's needed.

I had a pump that was running dry for I don't know, maybe a week? The impeller had turned to flour. I gave it a good rinsing, put another impeller in, and it started right up.

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Which begs the questions... Can Eheim classics be found anywhere around the Chicagoland area?
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Second the Aquatop recommendation (same as Sun Sun). You really can't go wrong here. Better than all the Eheims I have owned.

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Keep the bacteria alive with water flow and some ammonia. You can put the media into a bucket with an air stone or small pump. Do not leave the bacteria in the canister to just sit there with no oxygen.
If this is not a planted tank then the fish will need the ammonia removing abilities of those bacteria. Right away. If you have any sort of filter at all (a large HOB, for example) put as much of the cycled media in there and run it on the tank until you get the new filter set up. Then move that media to the new filter.
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Small daily water changes will greatly assist the fish and tank while you work out your filter issues

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Keep the bacteria alive with water flow and some ammonia. You can put the media into a bucket with an air stone or small pump. Do not leave the bacteria in the canister to just sit there with no oxygen.
If this is not a planted tank then the fish will need the ammonia removing abilities of those bacteria. Right away. If you have any sort of filter at all (a large HOB, for example) put as much of the cycled media in there and run it on the tank until you get the new filter set up. Then move that media to the new filter.
Excellent advice, thank you! I put most of the filter media in a cotton sock and attached it to a small power filter I had laying around. It is not the prettiest thing, but it will do until my new filter arrives.

I didn't wan't to chance ordering and waiting for a new impeller, only to find the motor was shot and have wait another week for a canister. Today I ordered a classic 2217 from Bigals.... I hope it gets here soon! It will be interesting to see if my flow rate improves through my inline heater and cerges style reactor, compared to the old ecco 2236.
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Contact the company. Filter may be under warrantee.
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Those filters don't really have a "motor". The impeller is half of the motor. The other half is what is left in the filter head when you remove the impeller. I doubt that it is damaged enough to keep it from working with a new impeller, if it is damaged at all.

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Last week, the impeller in one of my filters went. On sunday, I ordered a replacement from Big Als, and had it installed Wed evening with standard shipping! No issues.

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