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Dirt for dirt tank

Just playing around with some compost I pulled from under a leaf pile while getting some worms for the frogs, I put some of the dirt in a glass with 7.6 pH water, within 1/2 hour the pH dropped to 6.4, nitrates 20ppm-180ppm +, ammonia 0ppm-1.0ppm and nitrite stayed at 0 ppm. Think this would work for a dirt tank. Going to test again later and see if #'s change.
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Now this tank will be plant and snail only til #'s are good. And there is more dirt to water ratio in my glass then will be in tank
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Go for it, I'm gonna try something like that soon with a rubbermade grow out tub on my porch.
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Think I will but not till I get some plants from the creek or lake and try with some freebees first
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Sounds like this is almost all organic matter that is still composting.
Or is this the actual soil that is under the compost?

The same bacteria that we like in a cycled tank live in damp places (like under compost piles) and will turn ammonia (from decomposing plant material) into nitrite (which gets used up) then into nitrate. Just like in our tanks.
Other bacteria and microorganisms grow in the soil where there is compost and glue the soil particles together with biofilm, and this makes really good soil for holding nutrients and growing (land) plants. If you can get the soil without breaking apart these particles it will be great in an aquarium.

Interesting test, but if it is compost I am not sure it will make a great tank substrate. If it is soil, it probably will.
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It's from the middle of a all leaf and twig pile thats been building up for years. I dig into it to get worms now and then
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If you can still see the organic matter, and ID is as 'twig', 'leaf', then I would not use that. If it is so fine it pretty much looks like dust, or tiny particles try it. It sounds like it is organic matter that has composted down to tiny particles, and worm digestion is part of that. Worm castings are safe in a tank, but I usually hear of using just a trace, a dusting under the substrate.
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There is some twigs you can tell are twigs but other then that it's dirt. But boy did it raise the gH over 30 drops then I quit and lowered the kH by 1 drop.
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Run it through a screen sieve to remove the sticks & stones and use it. Put down 2" of the dirt & add a 1" sand cap. When you initially plant...plant heavy. Don't over think the "science" involved.
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Sounds like a good plan. I live 1/8th mile from Conneaut Creek and maybe 5 miles from Lake Erie so loading up on wild plants won't be a problem and planting a 10g heavy won't take that much.
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Can you put a filter on it from an established tank or use established filter media in that tanks filter?
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Can you put a filter on it from an established tank or use established filter media in that tanks filter?
The 10g that I plan on doing this to is established with a 10-20g whisper hob with a 3 month old biobag before setting it up 2 months ago.
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Run it through a screen sieve to remove the sticks & stones and use it. Put down 2" of the dirt & add a 1" sand cap. When you initially plant...plant heavy. Don't over think the "science" involved.
No stones just what's left of the twigs
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