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Planning on setting up an emersed plant greenhouse!

I'm planning on setting up a whole greenhouse dedicated to emersed-grown plants! If I can raise the money and buy the supplies I will probably do it. Texas is great for its mild winters so I don't think I'd have a problem keeping it warm in the winter, but keeping it cool in the summer will be hard. I'm thinking about putting stands of containers all around the edges and a kiddie pool in the middle. It willl most likely be a half-circle shape, and I think I'll build it out of pvc. It will hopefully be going up in the next month. What do you think?

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I agree with your concern about cooling it, that will probably be your biggest challenge because alot of plants won't do well in too hot of an environment. You may want to look into evaporation walls or big circulation fans.

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Will do as soon as I know more! I still have to pick a spot and figure out the building plans!

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I agree with your concern about cooling it, that will probably be your biggest challenge because alot of plants won't do well in too hot of an environment. You may want to look into evaporation walls or big circulation fans.

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That's definitely what I'm worried about most. 110 degree days for weeks in a row would be just a little bit of a problem. What I think I'll do is get a few fans and some misters. Those'll need some ventilation for evaporation cooling so I may put a few holes in the top that can be covered up. The misters will help provide more humidity and wetness.

Gonna do more planning today and see what I'll do.

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Oh wow those are a little bit more expensive than what I had on mind... Used regular old fans were what I had in mind. I think I'll buy fans last. First I'll set up ventilation and misters.
Ok, I have a plan now. I have several old 2 by 4s and I am thinking about drilling holes for the thickest bendy pvc to fit in. I think that'll be 3/4 of an inch. I'm probably going to do the half cylinder style with a door on one of the endings. Plants will be in containers all the way around the sides and in kiddie pool(s) in the center. I'm still thinking about the spot but I'm pretty sure I have a mostly level one with plenty of room.

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Yea evap walls for sure.
A giant radiator on one wall and a fan on the other to pull air through wet media.


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What do you mean by evaporation walls? I was going to cut some holes in the top with remmovable covers to let the warm air rise out and the misters would also be on the ceiling. I would most likely have the cheapest fans so probably multiple fans set up in the corners of the greenhouse.

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Can make a version of a swamp fan yourself easy enough I am sure, its a good concept

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What do you mean by evaporation walls? I was going to cut some holes in the top with remmovable covers to let the warm air rise out and the misters would also be on the ceiling. I would most likely have the cheapest fans so probably multiple fans set up in the corners of the greenhouse.
Evap walls is something we use in our green house. Its essentially a cardboard radiator and a fan and it pulls air through the radiator, it evaporates and cools.
I can tell you that today was the first warm day of the year in our green house, it was 72 degrees out and the evap system came on at 11 AM...
It was still probably 85 in there with the system running.
Without it it would be 100 degrees, at 72 degrees outside.

The problem with just fans and ventilation is if the outside is 100 degrees then the inside isn't going to be any cooler no matter how much ventilation you have.

Just misting won't work because then you'll over water everything.
Some tropicals will be fine with it, others will get mold and rot and die.

Misting and ventilation work well together, but it will still get very hot.


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You could rig up your own evap walls with something like a taught mesh of cordage or something and when it gets hot in there just spray down the cordage and turn the fans on.
The cordage would be open to the elements on the outside so you'd probably make it so you could cover the opening on the outside.
The air pulled through the greenhouse over the wet cords will be nice and cool.


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Ok I researched it and understand it now. That will work great. Now just to figure costs, space, and building materials.

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Temp is much less of an issue when plants are emmersed and not submersed.
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