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Do you use Pre-Filter on on overflow PVC?

Pre-Filter sponge or strainer on PVC pipe for overflow? Anyone use one or just let everything go into the sump filter?

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Mine came with a strainer, sponge, and silencing tube. The latter is amazing. It allows me to tune the tube if i adjust flow, water lvl tubing direction etc. I do use the sponge. It only stops the big stuff

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I do and usually just take it off to let trapped fish into the sump where they are fine until the next water change when I fish them out. Really quiets the sump a lot and traps a lot of debris.


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I do and usually just take it off to let trapped fish into the sump where they are fine until the next water change when I fish them out. Really quiets the sump a lot and traps a lot of debris.
Sounds like I should order both then.

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I don't have any intake pipes in the overflow. Filled it with bioballs, strainer on top of that and filter pad. Very quiet + almost 3 extra gallons of bio filtration. Will try to post some pics later on today as just finished plumbing last night.

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Please do. Im very interested how ur overflow is quiet like that

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Please do. Im very interested how ur overflow is quiet like that
Ok here goes. I tried to draw a diagram of the setup and adding a photo of how it looks from the top. There's a drip plate between bio balls and filter material, and you can find the actual pictures on the sump and bottom of the overflow box on my tank thread: https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/ta...-2-2012-a.html.

Water goes through the ripples > filter pad > drip plate > bio balls > 2x 1" bulkheads > sump. I would guess an empty overflow box would create a waterfall effect and be noisy, unless a perfect water level is kept to make sure it's always full. LFS that built my tank suggested I fill it, seems to work well.
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ahh indeed. my overflow is a hang on back. i couldn't possibly fill it with enough media and water to stop the noise. no strainer and silence tube. = slurping sound

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ahh indeed. my overflow is a hang on back. i couldn't possibly fill it with enough media and water to stop the noise. no strainer and silence tube. = slurping sound
Not even if you fill it with filter fiber?

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actually thats not a bad idea... remove the stand pipes leave an openeing in the bottom, use LARGE bio balls or pot scrubbers and then maybe a piece of foam over the top... hmm

Also, in regards to the hang on back, I covered mine with glad press and seal then folded a old shirt a few times and set it on top kinda like sound dampening, made it SUPER quite

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actually thats not a bad idea... remove the stand pipes leave an openeing in the bottom, use LARGE bio balls or pot scrubbers and then maybe a piece of foam over the top... hmm
No need for large bio balls. I used egg crate from HD, left an opening for the return pipe. Regular 1" bio balls work as they don't fit through it. Personally I used 1.25" bio balls (got bulk on eBay).

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No need for large bio balls. I used egg crate from HD, left an opening for the return pipe. Regular 1" bio balls work as they don't fit through it. Personally I used 1.25" bio balls (got bulk on eBay).

I forget about egg crate...

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I'll try and get pics of mine but its hard the way my tank is.

Basically there is two overflows in each corner. Their is a piece of PVC pipe coming up with a plastic strainer in it. Then a round foam block on that. Inside the pipe, sits a plastic float, so if for some reason the water raises faster in the tank, the float raise and exposes more of the strainer/foam to water and more drains down, preventing overflow and anything going down the drain.

My sump is a wet/dry so both drains drain down into a piece of filter floss on the drip tray, then over bioballs suspended over egg crate, then through the bubble break, then another big foam block before going to the return pump, which I split off to a T for 2 returns.

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Not even if you fill it with filter fiber?
NOPE
however i did pull the strainer out and open my pump up all the way.. the overflow that's designed to only handle 300 gph handled about 400 gph quiet nicely although it was rather noisey

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I'll try and get pics of mine but its hard the way my tank is.

Basically there is two overflows in each corner. Their is a piece of PVC pipe coming up with a plastic strainer in it. Then a round foam block on that. Inside the pipe, sits a plastic float, so if for some reason the water raises faster in the tank, the float raise and exposes more of the strainer/foam to water and more drains down, preventing overflow and anything going down the drain.

My sump is a wet/dry so both drains drain down into a piece of filter floss on the drip tray, then over bioballs suspended over egg crate, then through the bubble break, then another big foam block before going to the return pump, which I split off to a T for 2 returns.
Interesting setup, would love some pics.

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