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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 02-16-2012, 06:33 PM Thread Starter
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Plants melting on a newbie

So I've had my first tank planted for about a week now, and I've noticed that some of my plants are melting. It seems like every time I look a new leaf of my Val or wisteria is floating around, the Vals look particularly see through. Yesterday I came back and three of my wisteria stems that I planted were floating around, so I could see that none of them had even begun sprouting roots. The bottom of the stem looking bruised and weak, and the stem of the whole plant was very fragile and broke with the slightest touch. I replanted some and trimmed off the melting leaves, not sure if this will help or not. I did get these plants sent to me and they went to the wrong address so they were sitting outside in 30 degree weather for about 5 hours, so maybe they aren't recovering from that. I also bought two anubis and one of the plants has some really big brown spots on them, and the rhizomes from both are turning kind of brown. The only thing that seems to be growing is a crypt, a sword and an Anubis from petco. I'm doing a fishless cycle so I'm worried that the plants aren't getting any nutrients from the water besides ammonia. I do have root tabs though...any thoughts or suggestions?
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what lighting and co2 do you have if they have been in a box for that long it is likely they will take a while to recover

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I can't say for sure if this is your problem, but a lot of plants are grown emersed, so there's usually a period of adjustment as the plants "get used" to being underwater. This is seen a lot of times as the "melting" as you are describing. It's possible that after this period of adjustment that they will bounce back and grow like a weed, at least the wisteria. This is what happened to me.
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Sorry should have gave more info. 46 gal bowfront, just t8 lighting so pretty low light, black diamond substrate. I have the light on for 8 hours a day. Should I increase this to help the plants or is this good? Hopefully the wisteria bounces back, I had to throw some stems I had planted away because then I went to replant them they just kept breaking. I guess I'll give it a few more weeks, I was just worried I was doing something wrong.
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i would trim the damaged leaves but ensure that there are stil some left on the plant and then waiit for recovery bandit1200 hit the nail on the head with the underwater adjustment comment

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Hopefully it's just water adjustment, but the stores I bought them from all had them underwater, and from the pictures from the person I bought them from on S&S those looked to be underwater as well. I've attached some pictures of a few spots where it doesn't look so good. I also had this white film covering my driftwood which I was told was totally normal for a beginner tank, but some of it has appeared on the substrate as well, and it's turning this weird orange color. Hopefully this is just part of the process??



Roots shooting out from the wisteria stem turning brown:


Anubis rhizomes turning brown:



Large brown spots on the Anubis:
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i donth know if its because of the camera but that looks like very low lighting, maybe that's why they are dying
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I have a T8 and was told it has a nice reflector on it and that it would be enough to grow the low light plants. Is this not correct?
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does seem a little low i have 2 24w t5ho bulbs on my 37 gallon and mine is low to medium lighting

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Damn, I got some input on the low tech forum and the consensus I got seemed to be that I could grow low light plants. Hopefully these bounce back.
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they should be ok just take a while to grow let us know how it goes and good luck

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Normal Leopard Gecko ''Shadow''
Super hypo tangerine baldy carrot tail leopard gecko ''Moon''
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Should I cut off the stems that have leaves with brown spots? And do you cut them off right at the base?
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ye cut them right at the base and if the spotting isnt so bad then leave them to see if they recover i have had some that have recoverd in the past

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Normal Leopard Gecko ''Shadow''
Super hypo tangerine baldy carrot tail leopard gecko ''Moon''
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