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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 12-04-2011, 04:35 PM Thread Starter
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Hello, a couple questions and my tank...

Hello, longtime listener, first time caller...I very much appreciate all of the tips I have received in my readings here.

I've recently put my first tank up in over 10 years which is also my first planted tank. Personally, I've got some real 'issues', so of course, I went the 'buy it, plant it, populate it, cycle it, replace everything' route. I've replaced the original filters I bought, the lights, some wood, heater... I even replaced the substrate one day. The tank may be next... Amazingly, the only fish or plants I have lost have been by choice.

Anyway, what I've ended up with hardware wise is...
36g bow front (err)
Flourite dark + onyx sand which has mostly been pushed back with Azoo in the front
Coralife 4xT5 fixture with 2x10k 36w T5ho, 1x68k 18w T5, 1xColormax 18w T5
Eheim 2073, Poppy glass outtake
300w Hydor inline heater
5# Pressurized CO2 with Archaea regulator from AFA in SF. (2hours before lights on, 1hour before lights out)


The first question I have is that my bubble count does not seem consistent in the mornings at all. When i first check it in, it is usually at 1bps when i had it set at about 2.5bps prior. So before I try to exchange the regulator, is this maybe normal based on ambient temp?

Next question about flow/co2 distribution. When I look at the tanks at AFA, or some of the ADA tanks in youtube, there appears to be very little flow and actually, their diffusers are typically placed halfway up the tank and sending bubbles right to the top of the tank. This seems to go against everything I have read. Are they just over pumping in the co2 and are not concerned about loss, or have I missed something here?

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woke up to yet another inconsistent bubble count, guess I'll need to return the regulator. This is bad news since it means a trip to AFA in SF were I seem to have difficulties leaving with my wallet fully intact. :/
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woke up to yet another inconsistent bubble count, guess I'll need to return the regulator. This is bad news since it means a trip to AFA in SF were I seem to have difficulties leaving with my wallet fully intact. :/

I don't know much about Co2 yet...but are you giving it a bit of time to level out before you count the bubbles? It seems to take mine a few minutes after a change to get consistent. It also takes a bit of time when it kicks on to get normal count. I attribute that to the initial water that is being pushed out of the air stone I use.

Not sure, it could just as easily be a bad needle valve...I'm just saying when I adjust mine I generally have to walk away from it for a bit to get a consistent reading. I'm set to 3 bps...when the system kicks on it takes maybe 20 minutes to get back to 3 bps consistently.

By the way, that is a great looking tank!

Oh, and I don't know why they have their diffusers where they do, I'm still feeding mine into a powerhead with a down pipe, lol.
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Yeah, that was one of my initial thoughts as well so I waied an hour or so before checking it. It did seem a bit better today, so maybe it's me that needs checking out, or just more coffee before I look at it.

Thanks for the tank comment! It's been a lot of fun to put together. Today one of my lilys hit the surface from the tiger lotus (?) in the center. Loving it... My carpet is not doing so great, but I knew I picked a hard one to grow (hc). I just put some more in on the left and did a better job of cleaning the wool from the planter, so hopefully it will root better. Crossing fingers..
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In the morning, the co2 has to build up pressure until it overcomes the resistance of the diffuser (and whatever water has come in). I don't think it's a problem with your regulator, just normal operation.
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That looks to indeed be the case. It was much better today.

Pretty happy about this also, except for the dumb brace on my tank.

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Awesome tank, looks really good!


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I installed an inline atomizer co2 diffuser today and thought I would share.

The setup was a bit of a pain mainly due to my inexperience, but ended up successful, so I'm happy enough. the pain came in my inability to properly seal one end of my new bubble counter/check valve. Also, since the inline atomizer requires increased working pressure of 40lbs, I needed to upgrade from the flexible tubing I had been using.

The thicker, stiff tubing was difficult in that the screw on couplers used to secure the line to the valve barely fits over the tubing, so when you try to screw it on, the entire tubing twists. Which leads me to my likely well known tip...get the quick release attachments for your co2 line! Sooooo much easier everything became afterwards since you have a much smaller piece of tubing to attach as described above and then you just click in the quick release. Very nice and they are rated over 100psi, so that makes be comfortable.

Here are a couple pics and a quick video trying to show the atomized micro-co2-bubbles...





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