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Exclamation Safe (dry prime) water conditioner

just wondering how you dose your water properly usinf Safe.... i got mine but it didnt come with a measure!!! help. is there a way to mix it into a liquid state to make it easier to dose? how do you do it?

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I think this is repackaged chloram-x.

Directions for 10 g and 50 g
To remove…
Chlorine: use 1 measure to each 130 L (35 gallons*) of tap water (removes 1 ppm)..
Chloramine: use 1 measure to each 100 L (25 gallons*) of tap water (removes 1 ppm).
Ammonia: use 1 measure to each 32 L (8 gallons*) of tap water (removes 1 ppm). Do not overdose!

For reference, 1 measure = 100 mg.

So 100 mg per 35 gallons. By weight is best practice.

Don't make a liquid solution. Get a scale.
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Chlorine: use 5 g (1 tsp.*) to each 1625 L (450 gallons*) of tap water (removes 4 ppm).
Chloramine: use 5 g (1 tsp.*) to each 1250 L (300 gallons*) of tap water (removes 4 ppm).
Ammonia: use 5 g (1 tsp.*) to each 400 L (100 gallons*) of tap water (removes 4 ppm). Do not overdose!

So a 1/4 tsp measuring spoon would be good for 112 gallons. 1/8 would be fine for 56 gallons.
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thanks overstocked! youve saved my butt! thank you


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Per Seachem Safe doesn't have stabilizers found in Prime, so I don't think you can leave it in solution for long periods of time (ie make a big batch and slowly use it).

Always curious.
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Thats odd it didn't have a dosing amount on it. you like it better then using prime?
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because we have such high volume of tanks running all the time its easier to have safe then constantly going out to buy prime. where im located the closest place to buy large bottle of prime are 2 hours away. the safe was donated to FINS (Fish in Need Society) which is a fish rescue and rehomeing service for fish who out grown their tanks or have health problems (oscars with hole in the head and stunting are our main rescues) i am a co-founder of the rescue and we have been doing it for just about a year now. believe me, we go through TONNES of prime and medication!


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Thats odd it didn't have a dosing amount on it. you like it better then using prime?
It's so much cheaper.
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because we have such high volume of tanks running all the time its easier to have safe then constantly going out to buy prime. where im located the closest place to buy large bottle of prime are 2 hours away. the safe was donated to FINS (Fish in Need Society) which is a fish rescue and rehomeing service for fish who out grown their tanks or have health problems (oscars with hole in the head and stunting are our main rescues) i am a co-founder of the rescue and we have been doing it for just about a year now. believe me, we go through TONNES of prime and medication!
Thats really awesome! sounds like it would keep you busy!



May have to see about getting some safe, I am all about saving money.
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I just got some seachem safe too to save money.

After dividing a few times I'm figuring that for a 5 gallon bucket of water, 1/64tsp would be enough?

I wrote to seachem and they wouldn't give me a direct answer. They just told me it's too concentrated to go down to that small of an amount. I'm thinking they just don't want to do the math.
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I thought about getting some but wasn't sure I wanted to deal with measuring and weighing. Prime is cheap enough at $10 for 5000g worth of treatment, for someone like me that only has two tanks and changed maybe 40g of water per week to 10 days.

Might try the Safe next time I need conditioner though just to see.


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I can't find my calculations, but I use 1/8th teaspoon per 25 gallons. I've read other folks on the simply discus forum that use the same measure. I did originally measure the weight using my gram scale and I confirmed it with Seachem via their support forum.

BTW, I still haven't finished the first container of Safe that I purchased last January.
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I can't find my calculations, but I use 1/8th teaspoon per 25 gallons. I've read other folks on the simply discus forum that use the same measure. I did originally measure the weight using my gram scale and I confirmed it with Seachem via their support forum.

BTW, I still haven't finished the first container of Safe that I purchased last January.

I think I'm going to try 1/32 tsp per 5 gallons of water just to be on the safe side.
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I think I'm going to try 1/32 tsp per 5 gallons of water just to be on the safe side.
Ha! Safe side .

If my math is correct:

1/8 * 1/25 = 1/200 = .005 teaspoons per gallon

1/32 * 1/5 = 1/160 = .00625 teaspoons per gallon

I'd be surprised to find out that your measuring spoon is accurate enough for that thousandth of a teaspoon to make a difference. Especially since the product is...for lack of a better word...safe for double doses.
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For smaller tanks, I just use Prime, 2 drops per gallon. Not worth it to try to use Safe.
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