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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 11-11-2011, 03:50 AM Thread Starter
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For those of us that actually have a winter

That would NOT included Tx.Fl. & Ca. Seriuosly, 40degrees is NOT winter.

Now to the topic. When do you stop shipping/receiving plants my USPS? I know heat packs exist. My postwoman rolls around my house in late afternoon. which I can;t understand why the temp driver when she's off work is here by 11am???

Is there a temp. cut-off or hasn't it ever been a problem.
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I've gotten plants in the winter before but the temp was around 30F... I wouldn't go too much below that. Air & styrofoam are actually a pretty good insulators.

I used to live in Chicago. It gets cold there. You better order now.


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my last plants that my bro shipped came in when i was snowing a week or so ago and my plants were pretty dam cold prob close to 50deg maybe colder as our mail mans times vary 8am-7pm it seems lol. if your really worried check this out http://www.markofoam.com/usps-insulated-containers.php with that i wouldnt be worried period. it would really depend on the plant an exposure time imo. but im sure ill order some of these or something simalar for winter time if needed.
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I get them year round. Just ask for the package to be marked "hold for pickup". Postal trucks are heated in back(the delivery trucks are one compartment). I use a wooden box on my front step that has a heat pad (used for dog kennels) in the bottom. I had fish and shrimp shipped in february(10 degrees) and the postal worker sees a sign that says to put the boxes inside this box(rigid foam insulation and a heat pad). No losses so far.
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you know cali has mountains that snows <40F


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you know cali has mountains that snows <40F
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Climate - San Bernardino - California
Temperature - Precipitation

>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jan Oct Nov Dec
Average high in F.... 67 83 73 68
Average low in F...... 42 54 45 41
Av. precipitation ... 3.5 0.39 0.71 1.18"



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winter sucks. AND on a nice clear day, I can count on my mail being delivered precisely between 10 am and 530pm...
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YOU

Climate - San Bernardino - California
Temperature - Precipitation

>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jan Oct Nov Dec
Average high in F.... 67 83 73 68
Average low in F...... 42 54 45 41
Av. precipitation ... 3.5 0.39 0.71 1.18"



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This made my LMBO!

I love Michigan and was all giddy that it was snowing yesterday. When my husband asked why the heck I was all happy, I told him the happiness wouldn't last very long.

Love snow. Hate driving in it. I'm a neurotic driver.

I've received flora and fauna all year round. After it gets down to freezing at night, I ask for a heat pack.

This time of the year though, all carriers tend to be busy with holiday mail, which can slow things down. I haven't had a problem with it, but I know people who have, so take some caution when sending/ordering things right now.

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I like seasons that ARE seasons. I spent a semester in San Diego, it was beautiful weather, every day, Day After Day, AFTER DAY. It was like some bizzar Twilight Zone weather. I was praying for a thunder storm, hail, something, anything.

My little local post office is open 9-4 so I can't always get there. My PostWoman is on "Southern Time" when she driver her route.

Maybe NOT buying anymore plants during winter might be a good thing.

My last small purchase is on the way Via USPS. This will be a good test. I specifically asked for a Sat or Mon shipping. The seller shipped Tues. I'll be out of town and that box is going to sit in the Mail Box until Monday. It hit freezing here last night. Fortunately it was only $10.
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Razorworm - I have a feeling we tool those picks on the same day...LOL

Not having a monster snowblower, I shoveled very two hours. I also fired uo the Weber grill and had Brats going. Gave some to the City plow drivers. I even had some dry smoker chips on the fire. It was cool to see people faces when they drove by and got a smell of summer in the middle of a blizzard.

They have hurricane parties in N'leans, so why not Blizzard Bar-B-Que
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I ship all year round. I use insulated boxes and heat packs.

Keep in mind, heat packs on average raise the tempearture about 14 degrees within a cubic foot. Please remember as well, the heat packs need oxygen in order to continue working and do not work below a certain temperature. If you are using a pre-formed styro, you need to poke a hole in it so that the heat pack can continue to work, otherwise it depletes all the available oxygen in teh box and goes cold until the box is opened. Also you need to pay attention to which side the red stripes are on and make sure they are not sandwiched against the box/styro lid. These should be facing INTO the box. Use insulation to protect the bags from uneven heating (newspaper works well). You can also "jumpstart" a heat pack by putting it in a bag with some oxygen/air to get it warm immediately for shipping. Keep in mind, this lowers the length of its use. Heat packs do have a peak temperature, so you need to be sure you do not overdo it with them.

Also keep in mind, you don't account for outside temperatures as they are in heated trucks.

I jsut require a signature for fish so that I know the package will not sit outside, or do hold for pickup.

Priority packages must have someone available to receive them when temperatures are below freezing.

I do take of about 3 weeks in December (2nd week of december to first week of january) as there are unavoidable postal delays no matter what (express shipping I still do then)
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If you're worried about the temperature, just have them shipped to your work. That's one way around it so it doesn't sit outside in the cold. Also, then your spouse won't know about it either


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I like seasons that ARE seasons. I spent a semester in San Diego, it was beautiful weather, every day, Day After Day, AFTER DAY. It was like some bizzar Twilight Zone weather. I was praying for a thunder storm, hail, something, anything.

My little local post office is open 9-4 so I can't always get there. My PostWoman is on "Southern Time" when she driver her route.

Maybe NOT buying anymore plants during winter might be a good thing.

My last small purchase is on the way Via USPS. This will be a good test. I specifically asked for a Sat or Mon shipping. The seller shipped Tues. I'll be out of town and that box is going to sit in the Mail Box until Monday. It hit freezing here last night. Fortunately it was only $10.
Go down to the PO and have hold the mail until Monday. That way it will sit at the post office instead of the mailbox??
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you know cali has mountains that snows <40F
compare:
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http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcli...ly/graph/57005
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