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Glosso Carpet?

This is my first time working with glosso. I've bought a new ten gallon just for this plant. Right now its got 38 watts in the 10 g one CF has a reflector but is only 15w the other doesn't and is 23w. I've read and hear that higher the lighting the better but if i lower my 23w to 15w and add the reflector would it be alright? Currently i'm unable to put a cover and reflector for the 23w because its so big but i can fit it onto the 15w. Also should i seperate my 2- 1 inch square bunches or leave the close together? Last but not least this tank has eco-complete as subtrate and CO2 is running.
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This is my first time working with glosso. I've bought a new ten gallon just for this plant. Right now its got 38 watts in the 10 g one CF has a reflector but is only 15w the other doesn't and is 23w. I've read and hear that higher the lighting the better but if i lower my 23w to 15w and add the reflector would it be alright? Currently i'm unable to put a cover and reflector for the 23w because its so big but i can fit it onto the 15w. Also should i seperate my 2- 1 inch square bunches or leave the close together? Last but not least this tank has eco-complete as subtrate and CO2 is running.
you will be fine with that light. Separate into small bunches, plant separately 2-3 inches apart.

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Yea 38 watt should be plenty! I reduced from 39 to 26 and they're still doing fine. Except for in the shade, that's where they tend to start to grow vertically. About planting them, I was always a glutton for punishment so i seperated each individual leaf node and planted it. The first time around was with emersed growth, it took quite awhile for it to start sending off runners. The second time (more recently) was after i tore my tank down to remove the microswords and run a pure glosso carpet. It was with horizontal growth glosso with a well developed roots. Planting was fast. The long part was seperating each node again.

Alot of people just plant them in very small bunches and cut runners to head it grow densly.
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It is best to plant glosso with only a pair of leaves each. I have 2x15w CF over 10gallon, it is spreading horizontally without problem. Growth is slow without CO2 in my tank.


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How much trace do you dose in the 10 gallon Shalu? I just setup a 10 gallon with glosso and dont know how much to dose, it's got 72 watts over it .
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Just last week I got some glosso for my 10G as well. I upgraded my lighting from 26 Total watt to 54 total wattage. However, I find my glosso growing tall and leggy instead of short and bushy. Anyone knows why?

So far I haven't seen any runners yet. Should I trim the tall leaves to force it to grow horizontally?

I have pressurized CO2 at around 30ppm. pH 6.8 and KH 6. NO3 at 12ppm and PO4 is very high at 10ppm. Phosphate is something I need to work on to reduce, but would high phosphate do this?

I also dose Fe and K. I think the high PO4 is coming from fish food, as I tested my tap water which has 0 PO4.
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How much trace do you dose in the 10 gallon Shalu? I just setup a 10 gallon with glosso and dont know how much to dose, it's got 72 watts over it .
Wow, that's a lot of light I would look at 7-10ml per week at that light level. I dose a little less, 3-5ml because my light level is lower.


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Just last week I got some glosso for my 10G as well. I upgraded my lighting from 26 Total watt to 54 total wattage. However, I find my glosso growing tall and leggy instead of short and bushy. Anyone knows why?

So far I haven't seen any runners yet. Should I trim the tall leaves to force it to grow horizontally?

I have pressurized CO2 at around 30ppm. pH 6.8 and KH 6. NO3 at 12ppm and PO4 is very high at 10ppm. Phosphate is something I need to work on to reduce, but would high phosphate do this?

I also dose Fe and K. I think the high PO4 is coming from fish food, as I tested my tap water which has 0 PO4.
I highly doubt fish food can contribute that much PO4. You might need to play detective a bit more. 10ppm is very unusual, but probably is not causing the Glosso problem, but who knows for sure.

Is glosso shaded by taller plants? By all means, trim all the vertical growing glosso stems to encourage horizontal growth. Give it a little more time to send out runners.


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The only problem I have with glosso in my 10 gallon is that it tries to overtake the tank. It grows low and carpets nicely, bu then quickly begins growing over top of itself and then the carpet gets thicker and thicker and needs to be replanted periodically. I have ahsupply 2X13 watts on the back and a regular 10ga striplight on the front, which I think is like 15 watts. I have diy CO2 with the little hagen ladder. The only time I have seen it grow leggy is when there isn't enough light. Maybe it is being shaded.
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I have glosso planted in my 29gal w/ 4.4wpg and pres CO2. Still it is trying to grow up and isnt really forming a carpet effect. It is spreading horizontally but it has more noticable vertical growth.
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Just last week I got some glosso for my 10G as well. I upgraded my lighting from 26 Total watt to 54 total wattage. However, I find my glosso growing tall and leggy instead of short and bushy. Anyone knows why?
I hope someone knows why. I have the same problem in my 20g that has 110w of light (ah supply 6700k's w/reflector)

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do you guys seperate the plantlets and such??..i duno just throwing out an idea
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I suspect you just planted glosso stems as small bunches? You should cut away all stems sticking out of the substrate. I always cut the original stems into short sections with only a pair of leaves and plant those individually. Here is how it looks when I first planted glosso:


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thx guys first thing when i get time is seperating all that glosso
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I didn't at first, but after I separated into smaller bunches it grew a lot better...it spreads and grows like crazy, it just grows more high & leggy than I would like, although Co2 levels are high and so are light levels.

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