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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-09-2005, 01:25 AM Thread Starter
 
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best hair algae eater?

from a post i did earlier im starting to wonder i have people saying american flag fish and some saying sae. So what does everyone else think American flag fish or Sae?
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30ppm CO2, 20ppm of nitrates (via KNO3), and 2 ppm of phosphates.

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Really- 20ppm of Nitrates?
That's the mix for getting rid of algae?
Might be the best info I've seen for awhile!

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30ppm CO2, 20ppm of nitrates (via KNO3), and 2 ppm of phosphates.
tell me what i'm doing wrong then cause i've been using the EI for at least 5 weeks now and i'm still pickin' it out!
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I had thread and hair algae for months. It seemed to favor some Java Moss and Rotala that I had. I removed both plants entirely, made sure my CO2 levels were 30+ppm, and started dosing the EI way. 50% H2O changes every week, etc.

I still have Cladophora algae, but from what I've researched it is more of a plant than a simple algae. I'm using Seachem Excel to get rid of that.

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I had thread and hair algae for months. It seemed to favor some Java Moss and Rotala that I had. I removed both plants entirely, made sure my CO2 levels were 30+ppm, and started dosing the EI way. 50% H2O changes every week, etc.

I still have Cladophora algae, but from what I've researched it is more of a plant than a simple algae. I'm using Seachem Excel to get rid of that.
Haha, I was going to post asking for ideas on hair/thread algae, and I have the same plants (rotalla and java moss).
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I went to the LFS looking for AFF and they were out, they recomended flying foxes, they seem to be keeping it in check, they only had 2 for a 90 gal
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Be careful of FFs. Their palette will change from green stuff to other tank inhabitants.
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SAE's are the best all around algae eater. They eat every kind of algae off plants, but NEVER eat any of the plants. They are not very good at eating algae off the glass, but thats the easy work for us .
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SAE's are the best all around algae eater. They eat every kind of algae off plants, but NEVER eat any of the plants. They are not very good at eating algae off the glass, but thats the easy work for us .
You are lucky. There are many cases when SAEs eat fine leaved plants like rotala wallichii. And they will like fishfood better than algae pretty soon if you are a heavy feeder. They get lazier as they age.


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You are lucky. There are many cases when SAEs eat fine leaved plants like rotala wallichii. And they will like fishfood better than algae pretty soon if you are a heavy feeder. They get lazier as they age.
I have never had a problem with my SAE's eating any of my plants, and I have plenty of fine leaved plants. I've had them for a few years now so they are not really young. They will eat fishfood when they can get some, but mine always still eat algae. The tough part is finding true SAE's. They often get mistaken with CAE's, false SAE's , and even Flying Foxes. I had a link to a guide to show the characteristics of true SAE's, but I cannot find it right now. If I find it I will post the link.
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Finally found the article. http://www.aquaticscape.com/articles/algae.htm
Near the bottem, there is a section on algae eating fish and how to tell tell the difference between true SAE's and false SAE's.
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Here is another one to tell the differences between:
True SAE
False SAE
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CAE and one other specie

http://www.aquatic-gardeners.org/cyprinid.html
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I have 5 true SAE's in my 38G tank and haven't had any nuissance algea's yet. Knock on wood.

They do nibble all day long and the eat when I feed the other fish. I believe they get their sustainance from algea.

Mollies munch all day long too and they keep the surface nice and clean.

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yeah, SAE are algae killers, but go light on the fish feeding for a few days (or noen at all), and they will quickly turn to eating the algea. I have a molly in one of my tnaks strictly on algae detail and she is doing great, but only on soft green algaes.
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