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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 03-03-2005, 11:01 PM Thread Starter
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would these plants be ok for a newbie ?

Hello again
starting next week I'll be putting together my first planted tank, this
is the plant package I have my eye on, and I need to know if any of these are hard to keep plants ...so I'm sure you'll need to know a bit about my tank first..
55 Gallon Oceanic
substrate is 75lbs EC
lighting is 2x95 pc's 1=65k 1=actinic that I'll be changing to a 55k
for Co2 I'll be doing something along the line of this DIY
I'll be filterless but but am thinking maybe a closed loop, or a few small PH for water turns, unless for some reason you feel that would be a big mistake ??
thanks for any and all of your advice.......
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From that link, I didn't see a complete list of what plants are included. All I saw is that you are guaranteed at least 1 anubias. Am I missing something?

It doesn't tell how many different species you are getting, and how many plants of each species.

You must understand, of course, that it makes a difference if they are giving you - say - 4 swords, as opposed to 4 stems of dwarf sag. I would be hesitant to buy blind.

And a lot of plants are pretty cheap. If you have a Petco or PetSmart, you can probably get a bunch of plants - sag, val, anarcharis, etc. for $1-2 each. Basic crypts and anubias are usually a couple of bucks more, but no more than $6-10. I'm just worried that you'll get this assortment and find that it is primarily made up of relatively cheap unexciting plants, with only 1 or 2 interesting plants you couldn't have gotten easily and cheaply somewhere else.

IMO, if you are new to the hobby and just want to add a bunch of plant material to start off, you might be better off with just a bunch of water sprite, anarcharis, hygro, or some such fast-growing "easy" plants. Then buy individual plants as you decide how you want your scape to look.

That DIY CO2 should work fine. You'll probably need to swap out 2 bottles for a 55g.
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I would agree with eds, go with water sprite, hygrophila, egeria, ambulia and the like in large quantities. Once you have the tank up and running for a few weeks and the plants are growing like mad, then select what you want to do for your scaping. Maybe you can check to see how many of the plants in the assortment are fast growers. Anubias is very attractive but slow growing; you only have so much room for fast growers. Cover the bottom of the tank with them.

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Also many of the members here give really great deals on their clippings and other plants. Thome and Wolfenxxx If I rember correctly should be able to help you out and then you at a minimum know who you are dealing with.
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thanks for all the replies, I'll buy the plants you all made mention of, in fact I'm thinking just getting them from my lfs after I get the tank set up next week....
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Well if you're just starting out do yourself a favor and try to buy a large assortment of plants soon after they arrive in the store. There are other fast growers as well of course, but the ones listed are quite good to start with.
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Like jart says, depending on the turnover of stock at your LFS, it might be worth your while to ask when they get their shipments in. For example, one place near me gets plants in every Tuesday. So if you stop by on a Wednesday, you have your choice. If you stroll in on a Monday, the tanks may look a little bare.

Do you have any idea how you want your tank to end up looking, or do you just want to start off with the thrill of some living green?

I think a safe route is to start off with hardy fast growers. At first, it is a real feeling of accomplishment to have the darn things live and grow. You can start off with something like giant hygro. A really easy plant to grow. At some point you might end up tossing it because it grows too well, but it really gives a sense of success early on. Other than real cheap fast growers, you could spend a couple of extra bucks ($5-6?) on some red sunset hygro for some easy pink color. Maybe another $6 for a red or bronze crypt wendtii for a darker hue, tho it might take a little longer to really establish. You can fit an anubias nana or coffefolia in just about any mature scape, and they are essentially impossible to kill, but they can be really slow growers - especially until established.

So I would go with a sunset hygro and crypt wendtii for color, then stock up on whatever is fast growing, hardy, and cheap. You can have a lot of interest in just the contrast in shade and leaf shape between anarcharis, watersprite, and corkscrew vals. Maybe 5-10 dwarf sags for a little lawn area. And tie some java moss and java fern to your rocks/wood.

Just my opinion.

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