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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 03-01-2005, 01:20 AM Thread Starter
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Is 2.8wpg Good Enough?

I'm setting up a new 10g tank the Hagen Co2 system, eco-complete substrate with a 28watt Coralife CF lightstrip. Do you guys think its ample lighting to house an array of plants? I was thinking of putting some sort of grassy plants like Dwarf Hairgrass, Micro Sword, or Glossostigma.

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  • Anarcharis
  • Anbusia Nana
  • Italian Vals
  • Dwarf Sags
  • Glosso
  • Ludwigia

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IMHO it's really borderline. I really think you need to hit almost 4 wpg on a 10 gallon tank to really grow a good variety of plants. The AH Supply 36 watt kit and 20" enclosure would work fine.
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Is it possible to refrofit my 20" Coralife CF lightstrip or even a 20" All-Glass strip with the 36watt kit?
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sure. The All Glass strip might even be easier, because you wont have to take it apart as much.

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Hmm...does AHSupply have instructions or any other website that may have it?
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If you order a kit from AHS, you can request the installation instructions. I haven't seen where you can pull it off their site without an order.
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I'm curious as to why you recommend 4WPG on a ten Rex. That seems a bit overkill really, and consdering the small volume of water, I would think you'd have to be in constant battle with nutrient balnce and even over heating.
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I think the question of wattage in nano tanks is that of light intensity. perhaps a better suggestion would be to have only single light bulb at approx. 30W instead of multiple low wattage bulbs. If I had to use 13W bulbs I would stick at least 3 of them over the 10G which would equate t 4W/G

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I'm curious as to why you recommend 4WPG on a ten Rex. That seems a bit overkill really, and consdering the small volume of water, I would think you'd have to be in constant battle with nutrient balnce and even over heating.
One idea is that volume goes as the cube of distance and area goes as the square. So if you normalize to say photons per square inch (intensity) you end up with a higher WPG.

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Could you elaborate on that a bit?
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I think the 28w CF can grow most plants. I have a 10gallon with 2x15 screw-in CF lights, quite inefficient and bad reflector, yet I can grow anything in it.


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Shalu: Have you had sucess with grassy plants?
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My tank has no CO2, just some Excel. The glosso grows horizontally, although slowly.


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Just as long as its not dying
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It is easier with less than crazy amount of light if you are still learning the ropes with nutrient dosing, or you will be dealing with nutrient deficiencies left and right, algae problem is more likely to occur during this learning phase. No plant should die if it is not completely shaded(important for foreground plants). Upgrade lighting if you are still not satisfied with the results after you get the hang of nutrient dosing.

My 100gallon "fast" tank with 3wpg/CO2 keeps me real busy with plant maintanance rather than relaxing. I find myself enjoying the slow 10gallon a lot more these days. It might take 4-5 months for the glosso lawn to fully form(it's been two months), but that's exactly the effect I am looking for, I don't know how to keep up with glosso after two months in my fast tank.


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