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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 09-22-2011, 11:29 PM Thread Starter
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Help me layout these rocks!!

Hi guys,

After hunting around my area for some stones, I found one large stone that I thought looked nice. Unfortunately, it was the only stone of its kind that I could find in a larger size, so the other stones to accompany it are smaller, though of same type. I have been playing around with the arrangement of the stones but can't seem to think of a good way to lay them out. I have some layouts that I have tried below. Please help me layout the stones

Any suggestions are highly welcome

please tell me which you prefer

#1

#2

the original
Base on some of the input I got here is another option

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I really like the rock on the left in the first photo but not crazy about the face the rock on the right is showing. I have little imagination though, with plants grown in it may be just right.
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Try to maneuver them so you get as much height as possible - even if you have to pile up substrate in strange amounts beneath/behind to support them.
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Try to maneuver them so you get as much height as possible - even if you have to pile up substrate in strange amounts beneath/behind to support them.
Do you mean for the smaller rocks so they match the height of the bigger one on the right? or for both sides?

thanks for the input guys, and I am still open to any suggestions
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He means that you should stand the rocks upright to make them as tall as possible. Once the carpet plant fills in most of the rock will be covered. If the rocks are lying down or partially buried in the substrate you might not see then at all. Also, don't match the heights on any of them. Make sure they all have different heights.

You should always follow the rule of thirds when you're arranging the largest stone because it'll most likely become the center of interest.


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+1 TLE041. Sorry, should have been more specific.

Making the rock look tall and mountainous will balance the scale of your tank, will make plants look more natural and will just all-around look cool.

You've got a great setup and I can't wait to see how it goes.
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He means that you should stand the rocks upright to make them as tall as possible. Once the carpet plant fills in most of the rock will be covered. If the rocks are lying down or partially buried in the substrate you might not see then at all. Also, don't match the heights on any of them. Make sure they all have different heights.

You should always follow the rule of thirds when you're arranging the largest stone because it'll most likely become the center of interest.
Hey,

Thanks for the clarification on that. I tried to place the bigger rock on a 1/3 line. I also made the other rocks more vertical, while attempting to make sure that they were varying heights.

Here is what I came up with

Please let me know what you think I should move around to improve the hard scape

Thanks for all the input guys
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I love the rocks, but I have to ask, did you test the rock with vinegar to make sure it wouldn't raise the pH?


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I love the rocks, but I have to ask, did you test the rock with vinegar to make sure it wouldn't raise the pH?
didn't get fizz so I assume it's good to go, but thanks for the warning
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out of curiosity though, since i have never used rocks in a scape, can rocks really raise the water hardness so much between water changes that it can harm fauna?
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didn't get fizz so I assume it's good to go, but thanks for the warning
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out of curiosity though, since i have never used rocks in a scape, can rocks really raise the water hardness so much between water changes that it can harm fauna?
Not just between water changes, it will can raise the pH very, very quickly if you have a lot of rock surface area touching the water. I've got a 1/3" layer of rock at the bottom of my 55gal cichlid tank. When I recently filled it, the 50gal or so of water came out of my tap at 7.4 and within 12 hours it was 8.8. It has since dropped to around 8.2-8.4 two days later.

EDIT: Wait, hardness, not pH. I didn't measure hardness in it yet, but if the rock reacts to vinegar, it will also buffer the water with calcium carbonate, raising your kH, and I'd imagine it would raise it fairly high.


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Not just between water changes, it will can raise the pH very, very quickly if you have a lot of rock surface area touching the water. I've got a 1/3" layer of rock at the bottom of my 55gal cichlid tank. When I recently filled it, the 50gal or so of water came out of my tap at 7.4 and within 12 hours it was 8.8. It has since dropped to around 8.2-8.4 two days later.

EDIT: Wait, hardness, not pH. I didn't measure hardness in it yet, but if the rock reacts to vinegar, it will also buffer the water with calcium carbonate, raising your kH, and I'd imagine it would raise it fairly high.
I was curious to see what kind of stone I had so I looked on the internet and discovered that my rock i likely slate. Pictures seem to match, and I know that some of the buildings around where I was collecting rocks were built with slate, paths, and things
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start is kinda scetchy, but i like it, the feeling of naturalness FLOWS...
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I like the first and third.

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