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Lots of roots?

Fairly new to planted tanks. Just wondering:
My stem plants seem to be sending out tons of roots from a lot the leaf sections. Is this normal or does it mean something? Limnophila aromatica, dwarf baby tears, anacharis, water sprite are all doing it.
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mhm it's normal. probably because the stems didn't have much of a root system when you got them/some are floaters. you can just cut them off if you don't like them.

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Is this something that will stop once the plants are more established?
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Is this something that will stop once the plants are more established?

I don't think so. The roots will eventually send out smaller roots to the surface too. You just have to trim them once a week if you are lucky.
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they will never stop.. unless u fertilize the main root source.. the plants will put out roots where they are most available. the water column. having plants that aren't stemmy in front of them will hide the ball of roots though

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JeffP: Sounds like it's time for you to invest in a pair of long scissors from the dreaded eBay. Ha!

You're about to find out - in a couple weeks - why so many of us feel crazy after being a part of this hobby for an extended period of time. Pruning, trimming, yadda yadda. But you'll grow to love it.

Though, if you're the JeffP who ordered Osmocote Plus caps from me, I think your root situation will calm down within a month. On occasion I've forgotten to fertilize Eco-Complete when I start a new tank and it takes a month or so to get them under control once I remember to do the right thing.
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JeffP: Sounds like it's time for you to invest in a pair of long scissors from the dreaded eBay. Ha!

You're about to find out - in a couple weeks - why so many of us feel crazy after being a part of this hobby for an extended period of time. Pruning, trimming, yadda yadda. But you'll grow to love it.

Though, if you're the JeffP who ordered Osmocote Plus caps from me, I think your root situation will calm down within a month. On occasion I've forgotten to fertilize Eco-Complete when I start a new tank and it takes a month or so to get them under control once I remember to do the right thing.
Why would you have to fertilize eco complete on a new tank? Are you using old eco?
I thought eco complete comes with bb and is pre fertilized.
At least thats what my bags say when I've used it to start my tanks.


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I was rEading this thread and was going to ask the same thing.
when i scolled down and read yours?
FERTILIZE ECO-COMPLETE????
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I was rEading this thread and was going to ask the same thing.
when i scolled down and read yours?
FERTILIZE ECO-COMPLETE????
It took 3 yrs before I started fertilizing my eco complete.
That's when I believed I was seeing a deficiency in my plants. Once I did they started coming back with a vengeance.


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Fairly new to planted tanks. Just wondering:
My stem plants seem to be sending out tons of roots from a lot the leaf sections. Is this normal or does it mean something? Limnophila aromatica, dwarf baby tears, anacharis, water sprite are all doing it.
Just trim them as close to the stem as you can. Make sure you invest in the scissors you're happy with. I've always regretted my impulse buy. Lol.


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Eco-Complete is inert. It's essentially gravel. In my experience, it'll absorb ferts from the water column but definitely requires substrate fertilization to produce acceptable growth.
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Yep, agreed Eco-Complete is inert, but it has a high CEC. Which makes it very effective at absorbing nutrients... even ones that are dosed in the water column.


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Just to update...

I recently had a bad batch of EC and here's what the CaribSea, Inc. Sales Manager for North America told me via email:

"[T]here is nothing organic in the product other than some tannins and bacteria cultures… the substrate itself is inert biologically speaking…"

(They replaced my bad batch quickly, by the way)
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Ecocomplete is porous, and to some extent will retain whatever fertilizer it can sequester, but there really is no appreciable amount of useable nutrients in the fired clay. The minerals in it are bound up in a crystalline structure that isn't useable by the plants.

Flourite makes the same claim about having nutrients, but although the elements listed may be there, it's somewhat misleading to refer to them as nutrients. The glass your aquarium is made from contains iron, but nobody is claiming that aquarium glass is a nutrient source.

I suppose that lithotrophic bacteria could eventually break fired clay down into a bioavailable form, but for all practical purposes, ecocomplete is inert.
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Ecocomplete is porous, and to some extent will retain whatever fertilizer it can sequester, but there really is no appreciable amount of useable nutrients in the fired clay. The minerals in it are bound up in a crystalline structure that isn't useable by the plants.

Flourite makes the same claim about having nutrients, but although the elements listed may be there, it's somewhat misleading to refer to them as nutrients. The glass your aquarium is made from contains iron, but nobody is claiming that aquarium glass is a nutrient source.

I suppose that lithotrophic bacteria could eventually break fired clay down into a bioavailable form, but for all practical purposes, ecocomplete is inert.
I think this can be said about most "plant" substrates. Regardless, I think people should add root tabs to the substrate, especially if one is running a high tech tank.
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