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Algae help [photos]

I am over 1 month into fishless water cycle for Fluval Edge 6g.

I have MR11 LED bulbs I believe they are 6100k. I am using Fluval Shrimp Stratum Substrate. Temp is around 80, no heater, no CO2. Light is ON for 15 hours a day.

Currently my numbers are
PH: 6.6
Ammonia: 0 - 0.25 (Hard to tell, I've read it is always a little green)
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 20ppm

Two weeks ago I bought 3 cherry shrimp to test the water. 1 died and the other 2 are missing, 99% dead.

I already had a little brown algae on my plants but now it is growing and hair like. Please see the photos.







What is wrong with my tank? How can I control this algae growth? I pllan on getting some fish this week after a water change but am afraid of the algae problem. One of my plants already died and the other plants are turning brown and have brown deposits on them.

Could the # of hours of light, lack of CO2 be the problem?

Solutions?

Thanks
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You need nutrients for the plants - fertilizers-NPK and trace elements - plus CO2. Or, you need a lot less light. Read the sticky in the fertilizing forum for what to dose and how. Then read the sticky in the lighting forum for appropriate lighting to use.

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Diy co2 is very simple and could really help your tank. That plus fertilizers and less light.
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Check your water quality

It'll include GdH and KdH, stick to distilled and spring water, you didn't mention what you add to condition water, is it tap?

What are you using to maintain the low pH? I always thought NYC water was heavily chlorinated and harder.
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Diy co2 is very simple and could really help your tank. That plus fertilizers and less light.
Which DIY are you referring to? Do you have a link? How much light is recommended? Thanks.

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It'll include GdH and KdH, stick to distilled and spring water, you didn't mention what you add to condition water, is it tap?

What are you using to maintain the low pH? I always thought NYC water was heavily chlorinated and harder.
It? What is it you are talking about?

I added Nutrafin dechlorine to the tap water. My tap water is 7ph.
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Can anyone identify the type of algae?
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i 'think' its brown/green hair alge but im no expert,

i had some in my edge once and tryed treating it with interpet anti hair alge but it had no effect
in the end i just thre away any infected plants and scrubed all my ornenemts off and had to start the cycle again. luckily i hadnt introduced any live stock and mine was much less severe that what i see in ur pics

sorry i couldnt be much help.

what is that egg shaped fluval product next to your filter? is it a heater?
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Cut your light down to 8 hours and buy some seachem excel and comprehensive.
Algae is brown hair algae.
Buy a SAE Siamese algae eater they love hair algae.
Also double dose your excel for 3-4 days it'll kill all the algae.

Do all of these things and write back on your progress.


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i think ive sussed it, its an alge cleaner right?
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Cut your light down to 8 hours and buy some seachem excel and comprehensive.
Algae is brown hair algae.
Buy a SAE Siamese algae eater they love hair algae.
Also double dose your excel for 3-4 days it'll kill all the algae.

Do all of these things and write back on your progress.
Thanks for the suggestion. I just placed an order for Seachem excel. My plants have turned brown and some of the leaves have died. Should I dispose of them or try to revive them with Seachem Excel?

matt_t, it's the Fluval algae cleaner, or bubble remover
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Do not put a siamese algae eater in this tank. Both of mine are about 5" long.. the male is a beast and would terrorize a 6g


With the DIY CO2 suggestion, I see you have an aquaclear, which with ease you can inject the CO2 directly into it through the purging port which bypasses the propeller and dissolution rate is nearly 100%. I changed the bottles once a week, which was a lot easier than excel dosing.

Before this I used excel but I felt it wasn't enough, but it certainly will help with that algae! PS: I wouldn't initially double dose with it, since it has the tendency to melt plants. Also, once a leaf is damaged, it cannot repair itself. Trimming will encourage new growth

As for a simple NPK + trace, might I suggest rootmedic, product of a member on this board


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What's the best algae eater fish I can get for 6g?
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Cut your light down to 8 hours and buy some seachem excel and comprehensive.
Algae is brown hair algae.
Buy a SAE Siamese algae eater they love hair algae.
Also double dose your excel for 3-4 days it'll kill all the algae.

Do all of these things and write back on your progress.
Excel killed all my algae in about 3 days. I put in a capful, changed 50% water, did another capful for the results.

Purchased 3 large amano shrimp as well. Good bye algae.
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What's the best algae eater fish I can get for 6g?
I know Im spelling the name wrong I think they are called otto sucker fish small fish would do fine in your tank
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