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I am going to be setting up a few tanks in a back room of my house to grow and sell plants to local stores. The tanks will have no fish. My question is what will I actually need? I am going to have CO2 injection, dosing, lighting etc, question is, do I need some kind of filter? Or just some kind of water circulation?
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I would think all you need is good water circulation. A filter is basically just a big nitrogen sponge....something your plants would enjoy doing instead.

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It is always handy to have a filter to keep the water clean and to provide circulation. All kinds of debris builds up in a tank like that and moving plants in and out can be very messy. Besides, you would be surprised how often fish just seem to appear out of nowhere in tanks like that.
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Good morning NWA...

A venture like this will cost some money, because you'll need to grow a lot of plants to make up for your time and effort.

Fish would be a real benefit, because they're one of two sources for macro nutrients like calcium, phosphates, potassium, etc. the plants will need. The other being large and frequent water changes that replenish essential minerals.

The micro nutrients you can get commercially, so those aren't an issue.

Might need to rethink the "no fish" decision unless you can find a commercial source for the macros.

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Not only would the fauna provide various macros for the plants, making it easier on you, but depending on which species of fish selected, you might even have found another source of income if you could manage to find a fairly common and simple livebearer to breed in the tanks as well. Simple meaning finding a species that frequently breeds in your water conditions. I figure worst case it would help supplement your funds as far as refilling co2 canisters/jugs and/or fertilizers.

To save a few more bucks, I would also consider purchasing the nutrients in bulk from a supplier and mixing the fertilizer solution on your own. If you haven't done that before read up on dosing, I saw a sticky awhile back that explained it all pretty well, ill see if I can't find it as a reference.
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Tough to make a "real" profit in completely artificial growing conditions. At this level I think of the extra plants as a way to supplement the expense of the hobby. Common fast growing species don't demand a high price even at retail. I can take in a bucket of plants that are already lead banded and get 8-10 $1.99 fish in trade. Cash value would be even less than that. Your local LFS demand may be higher but around here there's simply not enough demand to justify the LFS spending much time maintaining many plants.

Commercial wholesale pricing on the common stuff is pretty darn cheap.
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You might have more luck selling in the swapnshop than at a lfs.
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Might as well put in some fish, always cheap ones to be had! I realize to really turn profit I would have to really invest some money. This is more as stated above am way to support my fish hobby. I have a very good relationship with a LFS here and the owner hates fake plants. So its to help supplement their tanks and my credit with them. right now I will probably have 1-2 55 gallon and a couple of 20 high for low light plants such as java fern etc. will most likely have a 20 pound CO2 feeding all the tanks. Never really thought about breeding, fish to... But heck why not!
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Not to discourage you but it seems you should talk to aquarium plant commercial suppliers and get idea from them. from you post it also seems to me you are relatively new to growing plants in tanks (me too). I would be happy to be wrong on that though.

All the suggestions here are good for a hobby but you will need to invest a lot upfront (CO2, lighting, dosing, filter, etc). Since your LFS just want live plants, and your purpose is to sell plants not showing your tank, I would grow some easy rooting plants in low tech style (= cost saving) with just dirt as substrate (= cost saving) and no CO2/dosing/filtering (=cost saving) whatsoever. All you need are three things:

1. light (energy source)
2. nutrient in the substrate to feed the roots (not the leaves)
3. Good circulation (O2/CO2 from air can always easily enter water).

Check out the link in my signature it might give you some idea. I would love to see your business thrive!


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Most of the items I already have, so it wont be too much to move over my excess equipment to start growing some plants in a few tanks. Its really as much of a hobby as it is to make a little income on the side. Mostly like I said is to build credit with my LFS, plants for fish/merchandise
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