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What makes a new tank cloudy?

Hi. Set up a 5g quarantine tank for some otos yesterday afternoon. Have an internal filter seeded with some sponge from an established tank, a heater, and some java fern and/or anubias nana covered rocks and wood pulled from an established tank, as well as an old store bought cave I had sitting around. No substrate.

Added some blanched cucumber and algae wafers when I set it up, and left them in overnight since I hadn't seen any fish eating them.

Woke up this morning to a tank so cloudy I can't see into it. It's white like fog or diluted milk. Did an ammonia test which came back 0. Did a partial water change which helped a little, but now it's opaque in there again. I really want to be able to monitor these otos so I can see if they're eating cause so far I don't think they are

I had this happen once before, many years ago on a small betta tank and ended up having to tear it down and start over. Should I do that now?
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Completely normal for new tanks. You just have to let the tank finish cycling and get the right mix of beneficial bacteria and in a few days a week the most your tank should be totally clear. Good luck!

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Well the thing is that I've cycled quite a few tanks but this is only the second time this has happened. I did an almost complete water change a few minutes ago and removed the old store bought ornament. I really need to be able to see in the tank - otos already have a hard time adjusting and I don't need dead fish that I can't see fouling up the water (I just found one when I did the water change). But thanks for the help.
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The same thing happened to me. It'll go away soon, but your fish may suffer during the process :/ but hey again, good luck!

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As stated it is normal for this to happen not often but it does happen.its caused by a bacterial bloom and is not normaly harmful to fish just add O2 and wait it out. it happened to me when i nuked a tank to kill a snail infestation. One solution is to add some filter start solution (ask your LFS for it) it is not an immidiate fix but it will help speed up the process.
i would not advise any more large water changes as you are only prolonging the cloudiness by bringing the tank back to square one.
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It shouldn't go back to square one with media from an established tank, should it? I'm not trying to long term cycle this tank - it's just a quarantine tank and it's got floss from another tank. But I need to be able to see the fish or else I won't know if any have died. Why not do water changes if there is no other way to get rid of the cloudiness?
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You can get a little fogginess in a new tank due to a bacteria bloom, but not like you are describing here. A normal algae bloom doesn't look milky or is so strong that it's hard to see inside the tank. It might be from the cucumber dissolving.
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Part of it could be from the algae wafers too. Every time I put an algae wafer in for my corys, the water gets slightly cloudy. Maybe you put in too much?

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Maybe that's whats wrong with mine today, I got some new algea wafers and there too big so I crushed them but it still ends up as too much. My tank isn't really cloudy but it has a film (oily) on the water surface and little bits floating all around (a lot), I just stopped using my glass covers because it's been noted the it reduces light and I just got in my ferts and dosed the first time this morning (PPS Pro) so it's freakin me out.


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My boyfriend bought me a medicine pill cutter, because I had been complaining about the size of the wafers and shrimp pellets. (and I specifically mentioned I wanted one) I use it to cut up the wafers into 4 sections, then feed only what my corys need. It has a cool storage compartment on the bottom, so I just put the extra pieces in there until the next feeding.

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My tank isn't really cloudy but it has a film (oily) on the water surface and little bits floating all around (a lot),
The film is easy to correct, just create some surface agitation with your filter outlet or a powerhead. If you don't have anything breaking up and moving the surface that oily film is normal, though unsightly.
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Surface agitation didn't help with my surface protein film problem, only a surface skimmer does the job. It it has been doing a great job for the past 4 months, it is awesome.
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Do you have any faster growing plants you can put in there? I would continue with the WCs at least once a day until the cloudiness clears up.


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Surface agitation didn't help with my surface protein film problem, only a surface skimmer does the job. It it has been doing a great job for the past 4 months, it is awesome.
Actually surface agitation very much does get rid of surface film. At least with a lily pipe. I had mine last night sticking slightly outta the surface to aerate and when I woke this morning ..... ive never seen the surface look so clear and clean. Although I think its more than JUST agitation, the lily pipe also flings all the surface crap down into the tank and gets sucked up by the filter.


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That would make sense, I point my outlet nozzle straight up, but I think I just have way too much of it, so it only gets spread around on the surface, and it doesn't get mixed into the water well. Maybe I am just feeding too much.
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