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Is water circulation necessary for a 5g with only plants and snails?

Right now I have a tiny pump running just for circulation in my soil substrate 5g planted tank with only a few snails living in the tank besides the plants (image attached - see pump in back right). But I find it annoying and maybe useless and am wondering if I would be okay to go without. It the water circulation providing any benefit? It doesn't disrupt the surface of the water.

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I would say it helps. Have you ever seen a stagnant pond or puddle? After a while it just gets gross with surface scum and algae. I guess if you're doing regular water changes it won't do that, but I would think the circulation would allow you to go a bit longer in between.

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I have a few small bowls/jars with no circulation and no issue with those - they don't go stagnant as long as the plants are healthy. But there is more surface film if you don't have any agitation.
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Yea maybe I will try going for a week or so and see what happens - but on the other hand things are going well right now as the plants are getting established so I'm nervous to make any changes.

ill dwell on it a little longer... thanks for the input!

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Essentially no, IF you have a soil substrate, decebt amount of faster growing plants, and especially if you have floating plants.

The substrate naturally reacts with droppings and decaying matter to turn it into usable substances for plants. Plants and especially floaters are mini beasts of nutrient absorbing machines which keeps the fish safe.. These work together like a natural habitat to keep the overall cycles going and balanced.

Filters became big and were necessary for fish tanks with no plants or substrate because the poop wouldn't break down without nitrifting bacteria in the water, eventually killing the fish. Plants like what fish produce and fishing food and what plants produce.

If you're very curious and want proof, order Walstad's planted aquarium ecology book which leans towards this type of tank with all of the raw, supporting science and explanation.
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It is an excellent resource, and is also available as an eBook.

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There's an excellent series of Youtube videos done of a hobbyist's experience with a Walstad 5 gallon with no filtration, just a heater and light and lots and lots of plants.


Of course the YT channel name escapes my memory....

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There's an excellent series of Youtube videos done of a hobbyist's experience with a Walstad 5 gallon with no filtration, just a heater and light and lots and lots of plants.


Of course the YT channel name escapes my memory....
Foo the Flowerhorn has several setup and journal videos of Walstad tanks of various sizes. I am not sure if that is the specific channel to which you refer.
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Thanks for the continued information all!! Actually, the foo the flowerhorn videos got me into this hobby - he is great! And his videos mention Walstad's awesome[censored] book which I certainly wouldn't have gotten this far without. I know in some of her larger tanks she spoke of using simple filters partially as a means of, "distributing heat and keeping water oxygenated". Probably for my tiny tank it's not necessary, and I'm happy to have it as empty of equipment as possible.

Thanks again for all the help!

Also, it's wild how fast these things grow!! Attached is a picture of the tank since the picture I posted with on the 14th
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