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Question 20 gallon long - need replacement hang on back filter - looking for opinions

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I have a 20 gallon long, planted tank, with 5 guppies, one ghost shrimp and one nerite snail. My fluval C3 just took a crap on me and i want to replace it with a different filter. I personally dont want to go with the fluval or aquaclear again, i have actually be looking at the marineland penguin pro 275. What do you all think about the new penguin pro's and is 275 too much for a 20 gallon long.


I do plan to get more fish for the tank, looking at some more shrimp, maybe 2 otto catfish, and a hill stream loach.

What do you all think?

Thanks!
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Good evening everyone,

I have a 20 gallon long, planted tank, with 5 guppies, one ghost shrimp and one nerite snail. My fluval C3 just took a crap on me and i want to replace it with a different filter. I personally dont want to go with the fluval or aquaclear again, i have actually be looking at the marineland penguin pro 275. What do you all think about the new penguin pro's and is 275 too much for a 20 gallon long.


I do plan to get more fish for the tank, looking at some more shrimp, maybe 2 otto catfish, and a hill stream loach.

What do you all think?

Thanks!
Not used that brand of filter. I don't use HOB any more-pretty much all sponge filters, 1 canister, 1 tank with submerged pumps plumbed into large sponge filters, and with 1 internal filter with a spray bar.

Otos should be in shoals of 6 or more and only added to well established (up and running 4-6 months) tanks with lots of diatoms. They will be competing with the nerite for food.

Hillstream loaches-as the name implies come from very strong current waters. Not conducive for your guppies (dunno about the amano and high gph turn over).
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The water must be clean, well-oxygenated, and ideally turn over 15-20 times per hour so we suggest the use of an over-sized filter as a minimum requirement plus additional powerheads, airstones, etc., as necessary.
You'd need a fast filter (high gallon per hour (gph) and again well established with algae/diatom tank for them-lots of rocks covered in algae, and many owners with hill stream loaches will also culture algae on rocks in bins with lights to rotate through the aquarium as they get cleaned off. Again nerite and otos will be competing with loaches for food. I'd get 1 or the other.
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Not used that brand of filter. I don't use HOB any more-pretty much all sponge filters, 1 canister, 1 tank with submerged pumps plumbed into large sponge filters, and with 1 internal filter with a spray bar.

Otos should be in shoals of 6 or more and only added to well established (up and running 4-6 months) tanks with lots of diatoms. They will be competing with the nerite for food.

Hillstream loaches-as the name implies come from very strong current waters. Not conducive for your guppies (dunno about the amano and high gph turn over). You'd need a fast filter (high gallon per hour (gph) and again well established with algae/diatom tank for them-lots of rocks covered in algae, and many owners with hill stream loaches will also culture algae on rocks in bins with lights to rotate through the aquarium as they get cleaned off. Again nerite and otos will be competing with loaches for food. I'd get 1 or the other.
quote from https://www.seriouslyfish.com/specie...lia-lineolata/ love that site for fish info.
Thanks for the response - sounds like the 275 would be good, and i agree with the ottos reading your post and that link. I think the one loach and some shrimp would do me good.

i appreciate it!
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Thanks for the response - sounds like the 275 would be good, and i agree with the ottos reading your post and that link. I think the one loach and some shrimp would do me good.

i appreciate it!
I'd go for the 450 if you can get it-no such thing as too much flow for hill stream loaches ^^
I've always wanted hill steam loaches but too lazy to deal with the rotating rocks and growing algae on them (no space)... maybe someday.

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