Cheapest easiest way to grow out aquatic plants? - The Planted Tank Forum
 2Likes
  • 1 Post By DaveKS
  • 1 Post By minorhero
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 01-15-2020, 06:34 AM Thread Starter
Planted Member
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Redmond, OR
Posts: 241
Cheapest easiest way to grow out aquatic plants?

My 35g hex tank is WAY overgrown. My 180g is taking longer than expected to set up. I don't want to trim then discard, sell or give away the clippings because my 180 will be darned near empty after I transfer everything from my 35g Hex into the 180.

What is the cheapest, easiest way to temporarily grow out the clippings while I am working on my 180g? I was thinking something along the lines of 5g buckets with dirt bottoms (35g is dirt bottom and 180g will be dirt bottom) and a light of some kind on the top with a timer? Will they need circulation? Will an air-stone do? I was thinking of a drop of household ammonia now and again to keep the nitrifying bacteria that migrates into the buckets thriving and also provide a bit of nutrient for the clippings?... mmm... probably won't. Dirt (straight organic planting soil) offs a lot of ammonia initially so extra ammonia doesn't make sense.

I plan on seeding the new soil in the 180 with the soil from the 35g and 5g buckets. I know about nitrifying bacteria... but I also know that there are a whole bunch of other strains of good bacteria wallowing around in the dirt of my 35g. I figure moving the soil from the 35g will kick start these other colonies of bacteria in the 180g.

Anyone do something like this? Any pointers? Any other ideas for very cheap, not too big, easy to move temp plant only grow out tanks? I don't want to invest too much in a temp system. I guess I could do some semi-transparent storage bins. How deep should they be?

Oh yeah, I can easily boost the plants with tons of CO2 while they are in the temp grow out system. I have an endless flow of carbonated water on tap that I can dose the plants with periodically. (My 35g does not have CO2 and I doubt my 180g will either.)

Last edited by Oughtsix; 01-15-2020 at 06:47 AM. Reason: sp
Oughtsix is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 5 (permalink) Old 01-15-2020, 06:47 AM
Wannabe Guru
 
DaveKS's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: 67212
Posts: 1,678
Way more value (per gal) in square storage totes. More space than 3 5gal buckets and you only have to maintain one circulation source like a small budget airpump for all of it. Of corse you need a light source, but stick to semi-clear ones like this and that can come from window light and/or a small desk lamp. When you change water on hex use that for change water in your plant tub.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hefty-16-5-...g-Lid/50261173
Oughtsix likes this.
DaveKS is offline  
post #3 of 5 (permalink) Old 01-15-2020, 06:51 AM Thread Starter
Planted Member
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Redmond, OR
Posts: 241
I agree, the totes do sound much better than buckets. I have all sorts of misc lamps, painters lights, brooding lights, etc. for lighting and several misc timers. Sun light is definitely the best bang per buck though!

Great idea about using the old water from the 35g in the grow out totes! Thank you!
Oughtsix is offline  
 
post #4 of 5 (permalink) Old 01-15-2020, 07:21 AM
Wannabe Guru
 
DaveKS's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: 67212
Posts: 1,678
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oughtsix View Post
I agree, the totes do sound much better than buckets. I have all sorts of misc lamps, painters lights, brooding lights, etc. for lighting and several misc timers. Sun light is definitely the best bang per buck though!

Great idea about using the old water from the 35g in the grow out totes! Thank you!
Also being as this seems to be a long, ongoing project think about putting about 1 of of pool sand or similar in bottom of tub as bio media, it will maintain better. If possible clean out filter pad from hex at start up of tub as bio-seed to add a culture to tub. Will put you weeks ahead on stability in tub. Basically your just turning a tub into a temp aquarium. You would be surprised how much water circulation just a simple piece of rigid airline tube stuck down in the bottom corner of tub will provide, no airstone needed really.
DaveKS is offline  
post #5 of 5 (permalink) Old 01-15-2020, 01:06 PM
Wannabe Guru
 
minorhero's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,216
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oughtsix View Post
My 35g hex tank is WAY overgrown. My 180g is taking longer than expected to set up. I don't want to trim then discard, sell or give away the clippings because my 180 will be darned near empty after I transfer everything from my 35g Hex into the 180.

What is the cheapest, easiest way to temporarily grow out the clippings while I am working on my 180g? I was thinking something along the lines of 5g buckets with dirt bottoms (35g is dirt bottom and 180g will be dirt bottom) and a light of some kind on the top with a timer? Will they need circulation? Will an air-stone do? I was thinking of a drop of household ammonia now and again to keep the nitrifying bacteria that migrates into the buckets thriving and also provide a bit of nutrient for the clippings?... mmm... probably won't. Dirt (straight organic planting soil) offs a lot of ammonia initially so extra ammonia doesn't make sense.

I plan on seeding the new soil in the 180 with the soil from the 35g and 5g buckets. I know about nitrifying bacteria... but I also know that there are a whole bunch of other strains of good bacteria wallowing around in the dirt of my 35g. I figure moving the soil from the 35g will kick start these other colonies of bacteria in the 180g.

Anyone do something like this? Any pointers? Any other ideas for very cheap, not too big, easy to move temp plant only grow out tanks? I don't want to invest too much in a temp system. I guess I could do some semi-transparent storage bins. How deep should they be?

Oh yeah, I can easily boost the plants with tons of CO2 while they are in the temp grow out system. I have an endless flow of carbonated water on tap that I can dose the plants with periodically. (My 35g does not have CO2 and I doubt my 180g will either.)
I second DaveKS on the totes. Also do not add ammonia or really anything to the tubs by way of chemicals. As long as this is less then a 6 month solution you don't have to worry about fertilizers etc.

Depending on what you are growing will determine how good this will work for you. If you are growing something that can be emersed, then I would not even think about filling this tub with water. Just put in enough that the substrate is covered. Then plant into the substrate with the plants out into open air. You won't need to worry about circulation or anything like that. The plants will get more CO2 from the air then they would if you were running pressurized system. You are doing a dry start at this point and its how all the greenhouses that grow our plants operate. You will need a top of some kind for the tub (can just be plastic wrap) and a light. A cheap shop light in the 4000k - 7000k range will work fine (depending on what you have available at your hardware store).

You can if you need to add some water to the tubs so you don't need to keep misting them constantly, putting an inch or so of water above substrate will accomplish this so the tops of the plants stick out of the water but part of the leaves and submersed.

Definitely the most effective way of growing things out. But if your plants can not grow emersed then you will need to adjust accordingly. I wouldn't hesitate to consider 2 tubs, one for submersed growth and the other with emersed if you have a mix of plants. Its more expensive obviously, but the effectiveness of emersed growth is such that it will likely pay for itself rapidly.

For specific plant setups like anubias etc you should check out propagation videos for that plant on youtube.

Good luck and let us know how it goes!!
Oughtsix likes this.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
minorhero is online now  
Reply

Tags
None

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Planted Tank Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome