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New planted Tank with Co2 / EI Dosing

Dear Fellow members,
I have about 6 months of experience with maintaining a Low-tech planted tank, and I am interested in setting up another tank with co2 and all .
I have purchased everything and about to set my tank up next week and would like to have some tips and suggestiong to avoid doing anything wrong.

My setup:
Tank : ~180L ( 37”x16”x21” Glass tank)
Substrate: Aquasoil Amazonia ( I have 3 bags of 9L each )
Filter: Fluval 307 External Canister Filter
Light: SUNSUN ADS900C LED Lights ( 80W )
CO2 Kit

Plants: Tissue Culture Plants:
Foreground : HC Cuba, S. Repens, Eleocharis Parvula, Monte Carlo, A.R. Mini
Midground: Crypt. Wendtii, Lobelia Cardinalis, Blyxa japonica, Cyperus Helferi
Background: R. Macrandra, Ludwigia Glandulosa, R. Rotundifolia, P. Palustris, L Repens Red, Cabomba

Fish : Amano Shrimp, Blue Shrimp, Siamese Alge Eaters,
School Of Neon Tetra.
Fertilisers : I have got an EI Fert Kit Macro and Micro Nutrients

I Intend to start with Fishless for about 2 months before adding Fish.
I can seed with some gravel from me existing tank.

Day 1:
I put up the substrate, plant the plants, fill up with water, get the filter running and set the LED lights for 4 hrs a day.

Day 2 – Day 10 : Do 50% water change daily.

Day 11-Day 20 – 50% water change alternate day

Day 21 onwards – 50% change Weekly.

Question :

1. When should I start adding the fertilisers and the EI Dosing ?
2. When Planting, should i fill water after planting ? or should i just moisten the soil and spray plants with water ?
Since i am going to plant Tissue culture plants, i believe the roots wont be that developed so the plants may float out ?

Am i doing or planning anything incorrectly ?

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ADA Amazonia is rich in fertilizers already. It might take you more than a year before its nutrients get depleted.
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ADA Amazonia is rich in fertilizers already. It might take you more than a year before its nutrients get depleted.
Yes it is rich, i disagree however with the notion that it is sufficient on its own to supply adequate nutrient levels for all species
I started a new tank some months back with fresh AS, certain plants were growing well while others were semi stunted such as S. repens, Blyxa
Started doing half EI dosing and all plants are growing as they should now


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Looks like you have a good game plan. I have setup a few tanks with ADA Amazonia I followed a very similar water change schedule and it worked well for me. I used filter media from an existing canister to seed my new tank, but substrate could work as well. I started dosing EI after the first couple weeks, as long as you are doing water changes I don't believe it hurts anything and it is pretty cheap to do so I probably started earlier than you need to. As far as when to fill it with water, everyone has there own methods and level of experience I found it easier to flood the tank the day I planted and start the process of cycling the tank right away. I didn't have any problems keeping things planted. I found that starting with a lot of easy fast growing plants makes it a lot easier to get the tank up and stable, then you can either remove them or swap them out for something else.

You might want to add your lighting schedule, my first tank I did with a 2 hour ramp up, 8 hours full light, 2 hours of ramp down. I was fighting algae after a couple weeks. I had to adjust the ramp and the length down a bit as the tank was getting established.

Good luck, and post some pictures of your tank when you get it planted.
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Thanks.

So, i was planning my Lighting Schedule at around 4 hours a day using a timer, for the first 2 weeks , go to 6 hours for the next 2 weeks, before going to 8 hours a day.
The co2 i was thinking to time to start an hour ahead and close an our before the lights.

Re: Co2, Since i am going Fishless for the first 2 weeks, i was thinking to have a bit more of Co2, probably 2 bps. then reduce to 1.5 or so once i add fish ?

Re: Water quality The Tap water i have is a bit hard, i measured the Gh and Kh and they came around 18dkh .
Do you all think this would be good for the plants ? i have an RO filter at home and probably can mix some water to reduce the hardness to about 12dkh but it would add to a lot of extra work !

Re: Plants, i am dropping the HC cuba from my list as of now, because it will be tough to grow.
Are my other selections good enough for starter plants ?

I am worried about Algae, what should be my first line of defence when it strikes ? Reduce Lighting / Water change ( reduce nutrients ) / or Reduce co2 ?

Yes shall share pictures here as i set this all up next week
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Finally my journey begins .

After weeks of planning, finally my planted tank takes shape.
Here is the timeline so far .

Day 1 : 10/17 ( Thursday ) . Planting Done.

Plants used :
Background : R. Macrandra, R. Rotundifolio,, P. Erectus, L Super Red
Midground : Ctypt. Wendtii, Anubias Nana, Christmass Moss
Foreground: L. Brasiliensis , Monte Carlo, HC Cuba, S Repens, AR Mini.

Soil : Aquasoil Amazonia

Water: Tap water: TDS ~350

Light On for 4 hours. CO2 is switched on an hour before lighting and switched off at light off.

After first flooding, i noticed a lot of cloudiness in water. I kept the light on for about 4 hours. and injected Co2 at ~ 1.5bps
Filter Kept OFF ( as recommended by ADA in case of cloudiness )

Day 2: 80% Water change

Day 3: 75% water change.
Canister Filter Switched On.

~~Got my RO Unit on. Now adding water at ~150TDS. GH and KH around 8~~

Day 4:
Tested Ammonia : 4PPM, Nitrite around 1PPM.
50% Water Change.
Added some Bio Material from an old aquarium to the Filter.

Day 5:
Tested Ammonia : 4PPM Nitrite also around 1PPM.
50% Water change. Using RO Water.

Observations:
The Cloudiness goes away after the water change, but seems to come back the next day.
Plant health looks OK. R. Macrandra some have melted. some of HC Cuba floats the best health seems to be of L. Super Red. so far.

Question: 1. Should i start dosing ? Micros and K ?
2. Should i keep a higher Co2 Level ? since its a fishless cycle ?
3. Anything else i am not doing correct ?
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Going well so far ! Going to start half EI dosing from now on ( second month )
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If you were to follow ADA completely (soil and their ferts) you would be dosing K and micros within the 1st two weeks. Everything else is provided by the soil. You could certainly get away in many cases without doing this, but these might be short in supply if not dosed.


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