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Question Fluval Stratum and Snail shells

Wondering if anyone has any experience keeping snails in a tank using Fluval Stratum Shrimp substrate?

The snails shells weren't exactly perfect when they arrived but several of them have clearly gotten worse since entering the tank. This is my first time purposely keeping snails and even though I have done a good deal of research on the snails (ramshorn) themselves the affect of Fluval's low PH buffering on their shells is something Im just starting to grasp. I started adding eggshells to the tank a few weeks back but I'm not sure if that's doing anything. The GH does seem to be 2 drops higher than my first attempt at testing GH.

Water Specifics: PH: 6.4-6.5 Ammonia: 0 Nitrite: 0 Nitrate: 10 KH: 1 drop GH: 5 drops

I'm less certain about the KH because it never turns blue for my tank water. On the first drop it has a light yellow tinge.
For comparison my tap water reads between PH: 7.2 and 7.6, KH 4 drops GH 6 drops.

I'm currently running a little experiment to see what the affect of a small piece of cuttlebone is on a small cup of my tanks water. Apparently I need to wait 24-36 hours to test it.
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Your problem isn't so much pH. It's hardness. That's why your snails' shells are looking rough. The only way to solve the problem is to bump your hardness up.

Do you have access to something like Salty Shrimp or another brand of remineralizing agent? That would help with hardness and improve life for your snails.

While Fluval Stratum does have some buffering capability, I've found it doesn't last nearly as long as other products and it can be exhausted rather quickly if you have harder water.


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Your problem isn't so much pH. It's hardness. That's why your snails' shells are looking rough. The only way to solve the problem is to bump your hardness up.

Do you have access to something like Salty Shrimp or another brand of remineralizing agent? That would help with hardness and improve life for your snails.

While Fluval Stratum does have some buffering capability, I've found it doesn't last nearly as long as other products and it can be exhausted rather quickly if you have harder water.
I can look into something like that to possibly add. Do you think adding cuttelbone to my filter would assist with my snails shell health without any adverse affects?
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Cuttlebone will help a little bit. Same goes for crushed coral (probably a better option). But based on your post history, it looks like your tank is 29gal? If that's the case, you'll be better off getting a remineralizing agent. I like Salty Shrimp but that's just personal preference. There are several other products on the market that would serve you well.

That said... your water parameters sound potentially ideal for a number of shrimp varieties. Have you considered Crystals or anything like that?


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Cuttlebone will help a little bit. Same goes for crushed coral (probably a better option). But based on your post history, it looks like your tank is 29gal? If that's the case, you'll be better off getting a remineralizing agent. I like Salty Shrimp but that's just personal preference. There are several other products on the market that would serve you well.

That said... your water parameters sound potentially ideal for a number of shrimp varieties. Have you considered Crystals or anything like that?
My original idea was to get shrimp at some point. I'll most likely go with amano shrimp however.

My little experiment showed the KH going from 1 to 4 and GH from 5 to 8 This was a small piece in tank water for around 2 days. Though this test also shows my tank water PH having went back up to 7.2 -7.6 range which I imagine could be due to being removed from the buffering of the Fluval Stratum.
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pH isn't really something you should be concerning yourself with too much. It's KH & GH that really matter in this instance.

Just find a decent remineralizing agent like Salty Shrimp and you'll be good to go. Fewer headaches all around.
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