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Hello everyone! This is sort of an introduction post. I'm fairly new to the planted tank hobby, this being my first (fully) planted tank. I'm wanting to go with some sort of Dutch Style.


I'm going with a standard 20 gallon long that you can buy from Petco and other name brand stores, with 2 Aquaclears (20 & 30) with an upgrade to a canister eventually. My light is the finnex planted plus 24-7 CC 30" running on custom mode (max whites, reds and blues). The tank has a soil substrate (Miracle Gro Organic Choice Potting Mix) that's about 1 inch tall with a sand cap of 1-1/2 inches. The total water amount is 9 inches from bottom of sand to the top of the water level.



My light is on from 8am-6pm.

Here are the PAR levels with the light with certain heights from the Finnex website:
3" Depth: 350 PAR
6" Depth: 182 PAR

9" Depth: 119 PAR


My tank is currently filled with jungle val (growing like crazy obviously), some dwarf sag that's sending out runners like crazy, and 2 plants I'm having issues with that I'm not addressing in this post because I know what the issues are with them.


I've got a co2 regulator (Pro-SE Series by co2art) and a paintball tank. I'm currently looking for a paintball to CGA320 adapter, and so is co2art (I got in contact with them and they are checking if their warehouse has any left, since they used to sell them). Otherwise, I will have to put my regulator on its side. Light, as I said before, is on from 8am-6pm so I would be putting co2 on from 7am-5pm.



I've got some major questions about fertilization. I've heard EI is the stuff. I have Thrive all in one, and I was curious if that plus their Liquid NPK+M would be alright with my light plus co2 with these plants would give them all their needs and sufficient growth, as I am not knowledgeable or comfortable with dry ferts.


Ammania Gracilis (background)
Rotala Indica 'true' (background)
Cardamine Lyrata (background-foreground)
Didiplidis Diandra (background)
Dwarf hairgrass 'mini' (foreground)


I've also got some diatoms on my plants and glass wall that I'm having to clean off. My parameters are listed below:


Ammonia: 0ppm
Nitrate: 0ppm
Nitrite: 0ppm
pH: unsure
dKH: 4
KH: 71.6ppm
GH: 179ppm
Tested with API master kit and their GH/KH kit.


Tank is fully cycled. I run filter floss, ceramic rings (eventually upgrading to matrix when I get a canister) and a sponge. Each HOB has a prefilter sponge.



Anyone have any recommendations for me?
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Lower dosing will work better with those particular plants, Thrive+ at half strength


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I use just normal Thrive all in one. https://nilocg.com/thrive

I dose 3x a week. Tank holds approx 10g of water. After 50% water change on Sunday, then one on Tuesday and Thursday.
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Oh I thought you said Thrive+. Still, the regular is basically EI which is too high for Lythracaea species in most tanks. I'd start with half that too.
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My light is on from 8am-6pm.

9" Depth: 119 PAR

Light, as I said before, is on from 8am-6pm so I would be putting co2 on from 7am-5pm.

I have Thrive all in one, and I was curious if that plus their Liquid NPK+M would be alright

dKH: 4

Anyone have any recommendations for me?
8am to 6pm is a long photo-period for 100 or so PAR.

Would be CO2? Suppose it's not in use yet? Turn it on.

Thrive plus liquid NPK and CSM+B would be way overboard. Pick one.

4dKH not bad but plants may like this a bit lower.
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Growing is not that difficult.
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How long do you reckon I should leave my lights on? Also, thanks for the clarification on everything else, I really appreciate it! I'll be doing osmocote plus in the substrate as I believe I have an iron deficiency in my root plants.
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I use a 6.5 hour photo-period with 15 minutes on each end to ramp up/down.
I've been referenced as almost an "idiot" for this.
It has grown all of the plants you have listed very well.


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I use a 6.5 hour photo-period with 15 minutes on each end to ramp up/down.
I've been referenced as almost an "idiot" for this.
It has grown all of the plants you have listed very well.

Haha alright I will try that. Thank you
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